Can a Rife machine cure cancer?

[Dan Jenson]

So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

[Alan Blood]

So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

The oncortherm uses an upper cone applicator of limited size and a lower waterbed functioning as a virtual second electrode. The RF irradiated area is thus limited to a defocused shape under the applicator.

There are other ways to acheive capacitive coupling e.g. using two plate electrodes.

[Fabrizio del Tin]

I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

[Alan Blood]

Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

Hi Fab. What is the placement of patient with respect to the old diathermy output. Is the output those two angled antenna arms or is that for climbing sparks. And what about for in vitro vials.

I have some confusion because an alternative concept
Could have a spark device discharging into a gas tube as a terminal load . Didnt rife always use plasma tubes ??? Any thoughts? ??

[Fabrizio del Tin]

Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

[Alan Blood]

Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

Violet Ray has one electrode in plasma and the charge must find earth. But all rifes tubes in old photos were not single tube . Maybe they never showed photos of the earlier apparatus. What do you think ?