Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

[James Bare]

Leroy,

5000 Hz has been used with long exposures times to treat Polycythemia Vera. I've spoken with two people over the years that had very good responses to 5000 Hz. Their spleens reduced in size and their RBC levels improved. Exposure times were typically around 40 minutes to an hour at 5000 Hz.



>I talked with the maker of one machine the other day. He told me that at >5000 Hz, that the machines could actually kill red blood cells...but made >the caveat that the red blood cells destroyed were probably malformed >or on their way out (about to die) anyway.

[Leroy Dissinger]

Leroy,

5000 Hz has been used with long exposures times to treat Polycythemia Vera.

Mr. Bare,

Thank you so much for your response.

I'm just saying what someone in the "biz" told me. It is not my place to say that 5000 Hz is bad or good. The title of this forum is ... "Does a Rife Machine harm normal body cells". I just reported what a maker of a machine relayed to me...so it is 2nd hand information and would not hold up in a court of law.

You have done a great service to all those wishing to build their own devices...I await your NEW book. Everyone should know about these systems and effects. In addition, power, length of time, instruction on harmonics and sub-harmonics are critical to understand. We (not me) as engineers of systems must understand that others do not "understand" the technical aspects of such systems and effects generated.

Leroy

P.S. I can not believe the great James Bare would respond to anything I could ever write...even if it was to say...how wrong it was.

[Tyrone Thomas]

Hello Forum

Has you will know im a Shamanic Priest a real one,and ive spent life times and decades in this life time training,When some one comes to me with a entity inside them and they are ready for killing themselves what do you think i charge to remove this? and then have this entity in me playing with my mind thoughts and feelings?I charge nothing because i receive GRACE from GOD,Ive walked in many shoes Male and Female in many lifetimes,And ive come to realise when we serve others without any selfish motive involved or payment we redeem our Sins.I will say no more about these silly frequencies.

Thanks

Tyrone

[Leroy Dissinger]

Dear Tyrone Thomas,

I feel compelled to write a response.

Yes, the information should be given freely, however, until the heart of a man changes little change will occur his head. You know that for most, a mans head creates his reality (and that reality is just as valid as another). Some people are awakening to another reality, one that does come from the heart first instead of the head. When the world first thinks from the heart instead of the head...this world will be a better place for everyone.

Some people are genuinely seeking to help others in this forum, others are here because they seek a remedy for a loved one, a friend, or themselves. Others are here to make a buck and/or sell something.

Without the dark field microscope everybody is using these devices blindly, except that we do have other peoples experiences in combating illnesses (and a few researchers). But, they didn't necessarily say what other treatments were used, what they ate, how much they slept. what "feelings" they experienced during the illness, etc. Most use many frequencies including sweeps of frequencies so that is all we have to go on for now.

The Rife technology, IMHO (from studying this for a few years, not actually doing it) is as close to a silver bullet as any thing the mind of man has ever conceived. But, there are so many other factors involved in physical, emotional, and spiritual wellness. Wellness should be tended to with equal enthusiasm.

From the heart,

Leroy

P.S. I probably should not have written this at all, but my heart told me to tell you that you are not alone!

[CharBoehm]

Tyrone, sir. I also feel compelled to respond.

You (and possibly others on this forum) have no idea the amount and level of work that many of us working to further this emerging technology put in on a daily basis, or the years we have spent getting to where we are now.

You apparently have no idea where our hearts are and intentions are.

You have no idea of the number of people that have been helped for a mere fraction of the cost of usual medical treatment, some of which never worked for them. Many of these people don't belong to any forums, so you will never hear about them. Knowing that their lives have been improved or extended in a good way is our biggest reward. I don't pretend to know all of what God thinks about that, but I have some clues.

You have no idea of the hours we spend on email and phone assistance, to help people use this technology in an optimal way.

You have no idea of the direct financial costs we incur doing this work, of the taxes we pay on the money that does get sent to us for services, of the little that is left over to help support us.

You have no idea of the innumerable hours we have spent away from interacting with our families, doing this work.

And yet you tell us we are selfish and ungodly.

No system is ever perfect, but for now this is the best we can do. And yes, our families do have to eat and we need a roof over our heads. Or do you expect food to be free also? That tends to create a system called slavery.

I respect that fact you have a gift and are able to assist with entities and do other shamanic work, and that you are in a position to do that for free. Many other shamans accept gifts. That keeps them fed and in shelter. I would assume you have other work that you do, to keep you fed and in shelter. The other work you do is your choice. Or perhaps you are independently wealthy - if so, that is wonderful.

The work we all do is our choice, and I have chosen to do my work with frequencies in the most reasonable way I could come up with. It tool me a long time to figure out the structure of how to offer this service.

However, it is not fair that you insult me in this way for doing what I do, on the basis of how you do things, or on the basis of what you think is Godly or selfish or not; or because certain frequency information has been free in the past. Everybody is free to use, or not use, the DNA-related frequencies. And somehow, this technology will go into the future - but like most other services, it won't be free. Nobody can afford to absorb the costs of such an endeavour. Even Rife was supported by Mrs. Bridges. Somewhere along the line, somebody pays in one way or another.

And as I have said before, and as might be obvious from other posts I make on this forum, it's never just the frequencies. Good and effective frequencies go hand in hand with high-quality devices.

Tyrone, please stop making assumptions about our intentions. This is hard work.

Best wishes,
Char
www.dnafrequencies.com

[Leroy Dissinger]

Dear Charlene Boehm,

I did not know about your site or method of calculation. I have read the paper and it does not seem to be too complicated (however, one may need to know some information that may or may not be obtainable via internet searches). Based on your method for calculating frequencies based on DNA, then you must have frequencies that could potentially be harmful to human cells?

Have you calculated these frequencies? If so, how many of these frequencies correspond to published frequencies (or are very close to published frequencies) that could potentially harm people using frequency devices?

It is an intriguing method, scientifically based and seems sound.

However, based on the paper (and my calculation which could be incorrect), "The entire genome of Borrelia burgdorferi sains 910,724 base pairs", 112.58 is the frequency specified. This is 33 octaves removed from the actual frequency obtained. Would not a square wave (with its odd harmonics) have very little power this far removed from the actual or debilitating frequency.

The reason for these questions is based on the title of this thread. It is also based on people getting herx reactions...is it the bug that was killed, or is it cells withing the body. I do not understand why a "hit" as defined by some manufacturers would create a physical sensation to the user of the device...it seems like it should only create a sensation to the little beasty...causing it to explode.

Also, based on my 33 octaves lower calculation, it seems that buying a device that can produce much higher frequencies is the right way to go...to get closer to those actual frequencies, i.e. less octaves removed from the actual or debilitating frequency.

As a newbie asking questions, I hope you will not take this as trying to steal information or being questions that are just TOO stupid.

Regards,

Leroy

[Leroy Dissinger]

Dear Charlene Boehm,

I am no expert on you method. I've looked up human DNA, and I'm not sure that they know exactly how many base pairs are present, but they say around 3 billion.

Using the method in your paper I calculated the following frequency using 3 billion pairs.

So, the frequency of human DNA (based on that loose number) is :

646.6575381
The lower octaves of that are :
323.328769 161.6643845
With debilitating frequencies respectively of:
457.2559303 228.6279651
Would these calculations be in line with yours, based on 3 billion base pairs?

Leroy

[Tom Basilio]

Very well said!

[Judith Myers]

The gentleman I purchased my new Mopa 4000 (whom has been using machine for 17 years) said the machine only targets bad cells, it is not dangerous. However, after reading this page you believe it too can destroy good cells. I now am very skeptical of using this machine. Please give feedback. Thanks,

[Daniel Bergman]

I think it helps to have some perspective on the relative risk of using frequency treatments compared to more conventional activities.

We do not really have any evidence of frequencies killing normal body cells. It may happen, but be too minor to really be of any consequence. There has never been any reports that I have seen of this happening.

I would have to say the risk of this being something to worry about is pretty small.

Lets just compare the risk to something people do every day. Driving a car. We all know someone that has been injured or killed in a car accident, yet most every day we drive someplace. We know the risk of serious injury or death comes with the territory but we proceed anyway. We have the solid 100% evidence that a certain amount of people will be injured or killed. Most of us do not stay home because of this real and known risk.

Acetaminophen is the leading cause of Liver failure. Many people take this without a second thought. A headache is enough for most people to take the liver damaging medication. It is not a theoretical risk, it has been proven, yet they sell millions of bottles every year.

You have to ask yourself if the concern about an unproven, unreported, theoretical, but potential problem is really even in the top 100 things to be concerned about? We are not as concerned about the above and known potentially deadly activities.

I would say the disease or condition being treated with the device is usually going to have many very real and known health consequences that are going to be far and away of greater concern than the cell damage speculation or even if it occurs regularly.

I would like to know the 100% answer to this also, but I haven't seen it, heard of it happening, experienced it, to my knowledge, so it is not going to keep me from using the device or keep me up at night. I may never drive my car again, but I will use the machines

Dan

[Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.]

This seemingly simple question does not have a simple answer. I'll try to be concise. If you're using the proper equipment, no, a unit shouldn't harm normal body tissue.

Some "Herx" reactions are actually negative responses to the RF carrier waves that some units use. I have been meeting more and more people who are electro-sensitive and cannot tolerate RF, even if that RF is being used for beneficial purposes.

There are some frequencies that specifically energize the healthy tissues without killing any pathogens. Using these frequencies should make it safe and effective for anyone to be in front of a unit. However, everyone's different. I remember giving a weekend workshop and running an excellent rejuvenating frequency. Everyone loved it, except for one woman. So I turned off the unit. Next time, if this happens, I'll simply ask the workshop participant to move to the back of the room.

Some of you have mentioned blood clots and other scary reactions after rifing. This is why it's a good idea to be able to consult with a health practitioner who's familiar with frequency therapies.

Of course, I'm referring to a radiant plasma light tube unit only. Electrode devices are quite different. I describe all of this in much more detail in The Rife Handbook.

Best,
Nenah Sylver, PhD
www.rifehandbook.com

[Stanislaw Chmielarz]

This seemingly simple question does not have a simple answer. I'll try to be concise. If you're using the proper equipment, no, a unit shouldn't harm normal body tissue.

Some of you have mentioned blood clots and other scary reactions after rifing. This is why it's a good idea to be able to consult with a health practitioner who's familiar with frequency therapies.

Idea is very good but it's such hard to find one here...
Healthy tissues yes but what about the pathologically altered tissues?
If they are responding with some kind of pain?
For example: I am learning to play guitar and I have calluses on the fingertips of strings contact. When I use my Rife like machine I feel tingling and stinging in the fingertips for some time. The second one:
I have a degenerative joint toe finger when I use my machine I feel the same strictly at the place where this problem exists. So I think that some a slight feeling of pain at place where is a problem is normal reaction but maybe I'm wrong?

[Linda Guy]

Leroy,

5000 Hz has been used with long exposures times to treat Polycythemia Vera. I've spoken with two people over the years that had very good responses to 5000 Hz. Their spleens reduced in size and their RBC levels improved. Exposure times were typically around 40 minutes to an hour at 5000 Hz.



>I talked with the maker of one machine the other day. He told me that at >5000 Hz, that the machines could actually kill red blood cells...but made >the caveat that the red blood cells destroyed were probably malformed >or on their way out (about to die) anyway.

Can you tell me which frequencies were used? (I am new to this and recently diagnosed with PV) I have a machine on order. A Programmable Blaster 20 MHz from Pacific Health. Thank you. I know this is an old post, and I hope I receive a reply.

[Tom Basilio]

Linda it is CERTAINLY possible for a Rife machine to harm "good" cells - frequency operates only the same frequency or frequencies close to it which is one reason NEVER to play with untested frequencies. It is interesting that people say they have had good results from 5000Hz because that frequency is not indicated in ANY of the information I have on this affliction so personally but as it is listed in MANY other treatments, it is unlikely to harm you. Typically, the tested frequencies are 13, 55.4, 121.2, 271, 694, 715.7, and 824.4. Hope that helps

hugs
Tom

[Linda Guy]

Tom are the frequencies you posted above tested for PV? Those are the ones I am specifically looking for at this time. Thanks!