How Are Rife Manufacturers Compared?

[Michael Tigchelaar]

What is the difference between using a sound card that are used by some Rife Manufacturers as a frequency generator as opposed to the Atelier Robin frequency generators used by TrueRife?
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The F-117 uses a true precision frequency generator as opposed to
sound cards which have severe limitations.


The most advance computer controlled frequency
generator is the heart of TrueRife machines

(The duplication of the F-117 Internal frequency generator represents at least a $100,000 investment to engineer. This is why some vendors use "cheap" ineffective audio sound cards within their system. The clue as to if a cheap sound card is being used is the manufacturer will advertise that you can run his system with a MP 3 player)

This question was posed to our Manufacturer. This is the response:

Hi Mike,

The main difference between a sound card and our frequency generators is bandwidth. The other difference, not strictly related to the limitations of a sound card is programmability. I am not aware of a software as flexible as F100 that works with sound cards. As far as bandwidth, It is one difference that has major implications for the different features you use with our generators: square waves, duty cycle control.

To produce a reasonable square wave at 10KHZ for example, you need a generator with a bandwidth of at least 200 KHZ. The higher the bandwidth,the more square the wave will be and the more harmonics it contains. A PC sound card tops at 20KHZ (180 KHZ short) The F117 has a square wave with a rise/fall time of a few nano-seconds. That translates into a bandwidth in the 800 MHZ region for the F-117 frequency generator.

Duty cycle control is another feature that requires high bandwidth and precise wave form control simply not possible with a PC sound card.

Best Regards,

Patrick Robin


These are the Specs of the board used in TrueRife systems:

Specifications:

DDS square wave frequency generation controlled by internal 32 bit processor
MS-Windows F100 3.0 software to control the F110 from a PC USB port.
Program file format fully compatible with F100 2.0 and our previous generators
2 internal channels: A:1.5 MHZ, B:100 KHZ
1 output 5 V TTL.
Channels A,B can be routed to the output in any combination (see note 2)
Any of the 2 internal channels can be used as a carrier for the other channel
Channel A,B frequency resolution: .01 HZ
Reference quartz oscillator stability: 50 ppm
Channels A,B duty cycle programmable.
Can be programmed to automatically load and run a program at powerup in standalone mode without the need for a PC.
Max output current 100 ma

Bandwidth 800 MHZ

Question: Why does TrueRife have so much greater Radiant energy output as compared to other systems?
(Measurements taken at 200 Hz
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There are possibly two reasons:
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1. The device is not properly balanced to deliver maximum power to the Plasma Tube or the
Electrodes or has too little power internally. Some devices boasting higher frequency ranges
are using something similar to a high voltage neon sign transformer to generate high voltage to light the
plasma tube (bulb). These transformers have very little EMF output but do light the tube. It
is comparable to standing in front of a neon sign.

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2. Rife tube has no electrodes: The tube picture above has NO electrodes but attempts to deliver power by winding high voltage wire around the glass. This has a "choking effect" on signal input and output reducing a 300 Watt system to the output of a 65 Watt Light bulb. This setup also induces excessive heat on the internal components often resulting in early failure of the device. Bulb life is also reduced dramatically as the high voltage wire over time burns or arcs through the glass resulting in tube failure. __________________________________________________ ___________________

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TrueRife Technician Preparing Bulbs / We stock all of types of Rife bulbs built to our specifications

TrueRife has worked with the leading bulb manufacturer in the world (Barry Allred).

TrueRife uses specialty bulbs that are manufactured specifically for Rife applications.
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Question: How do Novelty Plasma Balls compare to TrueRife / Allred Bulbs?


Novelty bulb Rife original double bubble TrueRife Double Bubble

Some vendors are promoting toy novelty bulbs sold by Radio Shack or Wal-Mart as a substitute for professionally manufactured Rife bulbs.

It should be noted that these inexpensive novelty bulbs are simply not the same "animal" as custom manufactured TrueRife / Allred Bulbs. Novelty plasma bulbs will produce a plasma photonic emission (light), but do not have "getters" incorporated inside of the tubes to guarantee clean and strong frequency emission. The Novelty plasma bulb output signal is inferior to say the least as it was designed for entertainment, not for Rife applications.

This is an explanation of what is involved in the manufacturing of our bulbs:

Barry Allred's Comments on the GETTERS incorporated into his tubes

In answer to your inquiries about an internal electrode getter, here is what I can offer as to an explanation. The coating most commonly used is barium strontium carbonate, which is reduced to barium strontium oxide during the heating of the tube manufacture. The oxide coating is a good source of free electrons. In laymen's terms, the getter works as a scavenger inside the tube which is heated 100's of degrees to drive out and open the deep layers of the glass.

As the glass is heated, the electrodes turn cherry red, thus breaking down the barium inside the tube, which is trapped within the walls when it cools back down. After the tube is vacuumed, then gassed, and pressured, then the tube is sealed. This can leave a small impurity in the tube, from the hand torch. Having barium inside the tube, enables the tube to age in on a burn in transformer, usually 60 milliamps. After the heat inside the tube dissipates and the tube begins to burn cool, it is ready to be shipped.

A tube that has been properly pumped will have very little heat with better impedance for a cleaner signal. Ceramic collars are used to keep the gases clean and to keep down impurities.

When a tube is properly pumped and aged, a tube will last 30 years. I have been bending and processing for over 30 years, and have tubes in service that are still burning.

Barry Allred
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[Richard Di Nucci]

I am a newcomer to the Rife Forum, and will be purchasing a Rife System within the next few months.

The title of this thread is "How are Rife Manufacturers Compared?" Hoping to see an objective, quantitative assessment of factual info, I was surprised, instead, to see:

1. A Paradox: Over the past 5 years, there have been a number of new or upgraded Rife machines, while simultaneously, there has been a surge in genuine interest from all corners of the world in "everything Rife" . . . yet paradoxically, this thread has been dead since 2008.

2. A Wiki Rife Machine Table, But . . . :
Back in 2009/2010, there was a great attempt by the Wiki folks to create a much needed comparative analysis of different Rife Machines where newcomers like me are able to compare different machine features.

And yet here's another paradox! This Wiki table has not been updated in four years (last update was in Feb 2010).
Link:
http://www.rifewiki.org/wiki/R.I.F.E_Machine_Table

This Forum Deserves A Comparative Table of Rife Machines:
I'm sure that there are many other "potential Rifers" who frequent this site and who, like me, would like to obtain factual info on the various features of Rife Machines. I don't mean to sound ungrateful or offensive to anyone who has donated their time/ energy to provide helpful info within this thread; on the contrary, I appreciate the advice.

However, I have observed that there are representatives of some Rife Machine manufacturers who have used this thread as their own marketing tool, instead of listing factual and truthful info about their product. In my opinion, the content within threads of this RifeForum.com is no place for marketing hype or marketing ads.

So How Do We Get There from Here? A Small Committee, Perhaps?
A fair and objective way to build a factual Table of Rife Machine features would be for a few of us to volunteer to build such a table, then double check the facts before posting it (maybe ask a few Rife "luminaries" for their endorsement of factual data???) There's got to be a few simple groundrules; I can start the process by listing the most important groundrule at the top
( . . . this does not allow the fox to get inside the chicken coop!)
1. No representatives or employees of Rife Machine Manufacturers
2. The final product must be understandable by the average member (i.e. factual info that does not contain "technical priesthood" terminology to confuse or impress the non technical person)
3.
4.
( feel free to add whatever groundrules you believe would be appropriate!)

As a retired electronics engineer, I'm willing to volunteer some of my time to accomplish this, if the forum believes it can be worthwhile. Comments, suggestions, or criticisms are welcome.


P.S. One such criticism, for example, could be that the politics of creating such a table might not be worth it. Alternatively, the majority on this Forum may agree with my boldfaced statement above that this elite RifeForum deserves a factual table of Rife machines.




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[CharBoehm]

Well, this is a refreshing change, Richard. Thanks for posting about it.

Yes, the Rife Machine Table desperately needs updated. I printed out the left half of it shortly after it came out, added some of my own notes, and then gradually added more information about devices as time wore on.

One thing that would really help the table itself, is to make every other horizontal row in color (not white). It's really difficult to accurately follow the material across the whole width of the chart. And maybe a vertical column could be added in the middle of chart that mirrors the left-hand column.

Char

[Richard Di Nucci]

Char:

Thanks for your suggestions (As a side note, I've done quite a bit of reading here on the RifeForum over the past 6 weeks, and every time I see your name on a thread, I have always found very useful and practical information!!!). So needless to say, I was pleased to see your addition on this thread.

Yes, we desperately need an updated Rife Machine Table, and I agree with your suggestions to make it a lot more easily readable. I had glanced at that Wiki table a few weeks ago, and asked myself if non-technical people would be better served by modifying the Wiki table to conform, to a greater degree, with many of the categories that Peter Walker had identified in the beginning of this thread (wow! that was waay back in 2002!). I also resonate (no pun intended!) with much of the process that Peter had identified back then.

But this undertaking, while a challenge, must be done; it could be made easier to do if we can somehow minimize the politics and unsubstantiated info from folks who represent some of the manufacturers. I'm just a newcomer to this Forum, but I'll do what I can to contribute.

To All: Please feel free to provide your thoughts, as well as constructive criticisms with the current Wiki format that I've referenced above.

R
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[Peter Walker]

I am planning to take up that project again soon, probably in March. Just a matter of finding the time to do it.

There are a number of articles I am planning to release on the wiki including device related ones.

[Richard Di Nucci]

Peter:

Members of this Forum are grateful for your continued hard work and dedication.

With all that you do, it's a wonder that you find time for stuff like this. Please reach out to us if we can be of help, even in doing some mundane tasks. I'll be happy to help out in whatever way I can.

R
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[Mike J Bell]

Its nice to see some life on this forum I was about to give up due to the older posts. I have only owned an Ultimate B3 Frequency Generator it is a 2.4 MHZ Sweep Function Generator. It is currently over 10 yrs old, I do not know how it stacks up to all the latest machines on the market. In fact I am lost as to what I could upgrade to that compares. Also is there anything out there that would fight infections etc thats affordable for someone on a tight budget? Thanks for any help.