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    I am starting to have people who would want me to try treat a condition of one kind or another, usually one that has not been resolved by conventional medicine.

    I am looking to protect myself from any future problems related to treating people with frequencies as an experimental treatment.

    Does anyone have a liability release form of some kind that covers this area?

    Thank you.

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    Dr Johnson wrote some for himself and a few other doctors. There are copies to see.
    Hopefully theirs is up to the technical application of the therapy.
    It looked like it would cover most of what we do.
    Than again?

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    Part of the problem is I am not a health care provider in any respect, so I have additional considerations that an MD would not.

    I have been advised by a member of the forum that the only safe way to do this is to have people treat themselves. They would be using my equipment, and running it themselves. I can tell them what to do, but I should not touch or run the equipment.

    Then, if the situation ever comes up where I am under some kind of scrutiny from authorities, I can honestly say "I never have treated anyone outside of my family". We are allowed to treat family members under current law. I only allowed unrelated people to use my equipment, but did not treat anyone.

    I do think this would be the safest course to take, although somewhat awkward in practice.

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    Default Re: Release form for frequency treatment

    Does anyone have a release form that might be useful?

    I've seen some online.

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    Everything I do , I do for gratuity.

    I'll treat anyone willing to be treated.. although I never use the word treatment. Not till me and the client have been through a few sessions and gotten to know one another.


    I don't use a release but if I did I should think that a good release form would look contractual.



    I_______________________, Here by understand that I am being allowed to use ________________s' device under their supervision and that now medical claims are promised or implied. Use of their device is to be considered for entertainment purposes only.




    Seems simple enough.... and should someone get cured and then get pissed off about being cured and call the authorities on you for Illegal healing... You can use my plan..... Should that happen to me I am gonna praise god and pass all the blame on him for providing the miracle.


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    Russell:

    I am a newcomer to the Rife Forum, and I'm not a lawyer by trade. I commend you for starting this "release process", and hope that we can refine the wording soon, so that others on this Forum can use it whenever they feel the need to do so.

    Since I know a fair amount about contract law, I've reviewed your draft "Release Form", as shown above (written in August 2012!), and I suggest a number of additions as well as clarifications.

    Accordingly, here's my suggested re-write:
    I, _________________________ fully acknowledge the implications of the following four (4) statements listed below; further, I fully understand, acknowledge, and accept the potential consequences of my actions either expressed or implied by the four statements below.

    1. I have received a “Rife-type” of device, Model # _________________ (hereinafter referred to as “device”). I received this device from ________________________ on the date shown below.

    2. I have been trained in the specific procedures that are to be used in connection with the safe operation of this entertainment device, and in specific safety precautions that are to be followed, before, during and after use of this device.

    3. While in my possession, this device is to be used on an experimental basis by me only, and for the expressed experimental purpose of treating my own ailment(s), which I characterize as follows: ________________________________, __________________________, and _________________________________. (To All: Does this second portion of Statement # 3 sound OK to leave in, or should we delete any reference in this Release Form to "treatment of ailments"?)

    4. Use of this device is for entertainment purposes only; however, I realize that in the process of using this device, I may experience some slight changes.
    (Does that take care of any potential problem in Statement # 4?)



    Signed: _________________________ and _______________________________
    Temporary User of Device Owner of Device

    Date: Date:
    Last edited by Richard Di Nucci; 01-09-2014 at 01:32. Reason: Clarity & deletion of potential problem areas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Bergman View Post
    Part of the problem is I am not a health care provider in any respect, so I have additional considerations that an MD would not.

    I have been advised by a member of the forum that the only safe way to do this is to have people treat themselves. They would be using my equipment, and running it themselves. I can tell them what to do, but I should not touch or run the equipment.

    Then, if the situation ever comes up where I am under some kind of scrutiny from authorities, I can honestly say "I never have treated anyone outside of my family". We are allowed to treat family members under current law. I only allowed unrelated people to use my equipment, but did not treat anyone.

    I do think this would be the safest course to take, although somewhat awkward in practice.

    Dan
    The 1 thing I would add is

    You are NOT telling them what to do. You are just sayi g what-you-would-do-for-your-own-self.

    Ie, not "Run detox and healing after"
    But "If it was me, I would run detox and then healing after?"

    That subtle, all important difference
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    I just looked up musical rental agreement, I'd leave out anything to do with the use of the device, and just use one of the common rental agreements, I see nothing wrong in charging for the device. I've ordered a cheap one, but if it works out I'll get a more expensive one, and rent will help with the cost.

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    hi Dan , Your question was over a decade ago (I just joined the Ride forum in mid 2021), I guess you may well have treated quite a few people in that timespan. I am curious to know the outcomes before I spend money on a Rife product. Would you be able to share those outcomes here please? TIA. David

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    Quote Originally Posted by David O´Mahony View Post
    hi Dan , Your question was over a decade ago (I just joined the Ride forum in mid 2021), I guess you may well have treated quite a few people in that timespan. I am curious to know the outcomes before I spend money on a Rife product. Would you be able to share those outcomes here please? TIA. David
    Hello David. I came to much the same conclusion that Karl did. If I let them use my machine then all the problems go away. I have not treated anyone who is not a relative. The one person that currently has one of my GB-4000 & MOPA was and maybe still treats himself for what started out as stage 4 prostate cancer. He is cancer free now but frequency treatments were one of many treatments he used. He did have chemotherapy but his condition was much better prior to that. He was quite diligent about his frequency treatments and herbal treatments.

    The original post was before I became quite ill with Crohn's disease. I was still trying to get control of my wife's lyme disease and co-infections at the same time. I really had to focus on my own condition as it became life threatening in a relatively short time. Most of my time was spent on research and trial and error treatments to get control of my Crohn's. Without getting into the long story, I did figure out at least enough of the pathogens that caused my symptoms to get back to a normal life.

    Once I discovered my wife had Bartonella along with her Lyme, things turned for the better. The Bartonella was difficult to get rid of partly because it ran for a long time before I knew it was there. However, eliminating the Bartonella made the Lyme much easier to deal with. I have found out recently that Lyme by itself is not nearly as difficult as Lyme with a co-infection. It puzzled me for a long time why the Lyme suddenly became easy to kill. Judy Mikovitz mentioned this in passing on a video about COVID 19. Finally had my answer. Smart lady.

    To make a long story short, none of this could have been accomplished without a good frequency device. One of the pathogens involved with my Crohn's was Mycobacterium Avium subspecies paratuberculosis or (MAP) . There are no conventional treatments that can practically eliminate this pathogen. Dr. Borody in Australia has a antibiotic cocktail that takes years to hopefully get rid of it. No one else even tries.

    I would not get a device to treat other people or as a source of income. I would get one because you have a problem that might be able to be resolved using a device. I don't rent my equipment. I primarily deal with family members and usually myself and my wife. Most people have no interest in it.

    Best regards.

    Dan
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    "have been advised by a member of the forum that the only safe way to do this is to have people treat themselves. They would be using my equipment, and running it themselves. I can tell them what to do, but I should not touch or run the equipment."

    I am a doctor and in the US its not even official "treatment", its spa and beauty realm? Non-invasive and yes? We do the patient involved just so we don't have to fool around with any fools or CREATE PAPERS TO USE AGAINST US when there is nothing to "justify" or create a paper for?

    One thing i do not understand?
    What is all the "my possession of the machine 2 weeks" and all that? I guess i do not see how it is relative in any way? If i shot a loon, where i rented the gun would not be the matter.

    It just needs to say they have been informed and wsnt to try? You dont even need all that "as i exercise my right to" here, because its gone without saying.

    More words equal more mess and it is really just simple? Don't feel like you have to over complicate it to sound qualified or "covered" because they just use it against you as "claims" and "posturing" anyway.

    Go now and enjoy. Someday too soon the state medical board will want beauty shop girls to have a certificate. We will develop the SIMPLEST protective structure possible...not the most complicated.
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    That's interesting information Dan about your wife Bartonella. May I ask what was successful for you in treating that infection, that seems to be a really nasty one for a lot of people especially those who own cats.

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    This thread is pretty much what I did. I think I later used a different Nutramedix product for Bartonella later on along with the frequency treatments but I don't recall which one.
    432 was a good Bart frequency for us and for some reason 832 although it is not listed for Bart.

    I got lax documenting this stuff toward the end. Possibly more is here somewhere but I am not sure. I have lots of Lyme treatment posts over many years.

    https://www.rifeforum.com/forum/thre...ght=Bartonella

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    Thanks Dan I appreciate the response looks like on that forum message string you mentioned that frequencies weren't enough and you had to add cumanda and various herbs.

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    It seemed to me that while a bigger share of the bart was eliminated by the initial frequency treatments, there was this stubborn remnant that remained.

    I couldn’t get all of it and it seemed to reproduce quickly. Maybe if I would have ran frequencies overnight I could have done it. Never tried it.

    The handicap in our case was my wife’s inability to tolerate oral treatments for very long. For the average sufferer this is not typically a problem. I think the combo treatment is a good way to get rid of it for good. Just treat longer than you think you have to. The same goes for Babesia. It is still there after the symptoms are gone.

    Best regards.

    Dan

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