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    Yes, this last one is the one to use.

    You are loaning the device and therefor have no culpability for what an individual may use it for.

    you might consider adding that this device is not for the use of treating or curing any physical condition. All applications of frequency are experimental and unproven. This person has been advised to seek the counsel of a licensed medical practitioner.

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    Arrow:

    Good points, all of them, and a welcome addition.

    While I could add most of your additions, I believe I've covered the "on loan" topic and the "no culpability" topic sufficiently. Do you agree?

    I believe your other major point ("not for treating or curing any physical condition") is worthy of consideration, and makes no inference for such use.

    My Thoughts on Your Last Sentence:
    ("This person has been advised to seek the counsel of a licensed medical practitioner"). Looking at this sentence from the legal person's perspective, it draws too much attention to the inference that the person may, in fact, use it for medical reasons.

    In regard to this "inference" stated above, I welcome your perspective, and perspectives from others as well.

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    Well trying to deny that this is going to be used for medical issues is another layer of denial. You know, your client or friend knows and so does the prosecutors and FDA as well as any judge.

    Change the sentence to say. This person has been advised to seek the counsel of a licensed medical practitioner if they believe that they are ill.

    It is a cover your butt sentence.

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    Arrow:

    This afternoon, while doing some other work, I had time to reflect on these points, and ironically, I came to the same conclusion that you did!

    I'll insert that sentence into the prior draft, and call it a new revision; that version should be sufficient as a starting point for someone who wants to draft a contract, and they can refine it further if they wish.

    Tnks for your suggestions.

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    thank you richard for your hard work

    please don't get upset if i suggest one minor point.

    in paragraph 5 instead of "after five [5] days" i would suggest instead

    "by giving me 24 hours advance notice"

    i only have one good machine and i might need it an emergency!

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    Max:

    None of us should ever be offended if we ask post some idea, then ask for suggestions . . . whether we agree with them or not. In this case, your suggestion is actually a very good one, since most Rifers have only one Rife Machine, and are in the same predicament as you.

    Free to Change Any Part of the Release Form Agreement:
    I certainly will incorporate your comment, but please recognize that the draft "Template" above are just words, and all Rifers who see this Release Form and want to use it, are free to change it in whatever way they wish, in order to suit their individual needs.

    So whenever you plan to use this form, please change, add to, or delete any portion of the wording in the associated paragraphs in whatever way you wish.

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    I just looked up musical rental agreement, I'd leave out anything to do with the use of the device, and just use one of the common rental agreements, I see nothing wrong in charging for the device. I've ordered a cheap one, but if it works out I'll get a more expensive one, and rent will help with the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Bergman View Post
    Part of the problem is I am not a health care provider in any respect, so I have additional considerations that an MD would not.

    I have been advised by a member of the forum that the only safe way to do this is to have people treat themselves. They would be using my equipment, and running it themselves. I can tell them what to do, but I should not touch or run the equipment.

    Then, if the situation ever comes up where I am under some kind of scrutiny from authorities, I can honestly say "I never have treated anyone outside of my family". We are allowed to treat family members under current law. I only allowed unrelated people to use my equipment, but did not treat anyone.

    I do think this would be the safest course to take, although somewhat awkward in practice.

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    You are NOT telling them what to do. You are just sayi g what-you-would-do-for-your-own-self.

    Ie, not "Run detox and healing after"
    But "If it was me, I would run detox and then healing after?"

    That subtle, all important difference
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    hi Dan , Your question was over a decade ago (I just joined the Ride forum in mid 2021), I guess you may well have treated quite a few people in that timespan. I am curious to know the outcomes before I spend money on a Rife product. Would you be able to share those outcomes here please? TIA. David

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    "have been advised by a member of the forum that the only safe way to do this is to have people treat themselves. They would be using my equipment, and running it themselves. I can tell them what to do, but I should not touch or run the equipment."

    I am a doctor and in the US its not even official "treatment", its spa and beauty realm? Non-invasive and yes? We do the patient involved just so we don't have to fool around with any fools or CREATE PAPERS TO USE AGAINST US when there is nothing to "justify" or create a paper for?

    One thing i do not understand?
    What is all the "my possession of the machine 2 weeks" and all that? I guess i do not see how it is relative in any way? If i shot a loon, where i rented the gun would not be the matter.

    It just needs to say they have been informed and wsnt to try? You dont even need all that "as i exercise my right to" here, because its gone without saying.

    More words equal more mess and it is really just simple? Don't feel like you have to over complicate it to sound qualified or "covered" because they just use it against you as "claims" and "posturing" anyway.

    Go now and enjoy. Someday too soon the state medical board will want beauty shop girls to have a certificate. We will develop the SIMPLEST protective structure possible...not the most complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow Durfee View Post
    Yes, this last one is the one to use.

    You are loaning the device and therefor have no culpability for what an individual may use it for.

    you might consider adding that this device is not for the use of treating or curing any physical condition. All applications of frequency are experimental and unproven. This person has been advised to seek the counsel of a licensed medical practitioner.
    You will tell the judge you advised them to see a dr but still rented them a unit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David O´Mahony View Post
    hi Dan , Your question was over a decade ago (I just joined the Ride forum in mid 2021), I guess you may well have treated quite a few people in that timespan. I am curious to know the outcomes before I spend money on a Rife product. Would you be able to share those outcomes here please? TIA. David
    Hello David. I came to much the same conclusion that Karl did. If I let them use my machine then all the problems go away. I have not treated anyone who is not a relative. The one person that currently has one of my GB-4000 & MOPA was and maybe still treats himself for what started out as stage 4 prostate cancer. He is cancer free now but frequency treatments were one of many treatments he used. He did have chemotherapy but his condition was much better prior to that. He was quite diligent about his frequency treatments and herbal treatments.

    The original post was before I became quite ill with Crohn's disease. I was still trying to get control of my wife's lyme disease and co-infections at the same time. I really had to focus on my own condition as it became life threatening in a relatively short time. Most of my time was spent on research and trial and error treatments to get control of my Crohn's. Without getting into the long story, I did figure out at least enough of the pathogens that caused my symptoms to get back to a normal life.

    Once I discovered my wife had Bartonella along with her Lyme, things turned for the better. The Bartonella was difficult to get rid of partly because it ran for a long time before I knew it was there. However, eliminating the Bartonella made the Lyme much easier to deal with. I have found out recently that Lyme by itself is not nearly as difficult as Lyme with a co-infection. It puzzled me for a long time why the Lyme suddenly became easy to kill. Judy Mikovitz mentioned this in passing on a video about COVID 19. Finally had my answer. Smart lady.

    To make a long story short, none of this could have been accomplished without a good frequency device. One of the pathogens involved with my Crohn's was Mycobacterium Avium subspecies paratuberculosis or (MAP) . There are no conventional treatments that can practically eliminate this pathogen. Dr. Borody in Australia has a antibiotic cocktail that takes years to hopefully get rid of it. No one else even tries.

    I would not get a device to treat other people or as a source of income. I would get one because you have a problem that might be able to be resolved using a device. I don't rent my equipment. I primarily deal with family members and usually myself and my wife. Most people have no interest in it.

    Best regards.

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    That's interesting information Dan about your wife Bartonella. May I ask what was successful for you in treating that infection, that seems to be a really nasty one for a lot of people especially those who own cats.

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    This thread is pretty much what I did. I think I later used a different Nutramedix product for Bartonella later on along with the frequency treatments but I don't recall which one.
    432 was a good Bart frequency for us and for some reason 832 although it is not listed for Bart.

    I got lax documenting this stuff toward the end. Possibly more is here somewhere but I am not sure. I have lots of Lyme treatment posts over many years.

    https://www.rifeforum.com/forum/thre...ght=Bartonella

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    Thanks Dan I appreciate the response looks like on that forum message string you mentioned that frequencies weren't enough and you had to add cumanda and various herbs.

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    It seemed to me that while a bigger share of the bart was eliminated by the initial frequency treatments, there was this stubborn remnant that remained.

    I couldn’t get all of it and it seemed to reproduce quickly. Maybe if I would have ran frequencies overnight I could have done it. Never tried it.

    The handicap in our case was my wife’s inability to tolerate oral treatments for very long. For the average sufferer this is not typically a problem. I think the combo treatment is a good way to get rid of it for good. Just treat longer than you think you have to. The same goes for Babesia. It is still there after the symptoms are gone.

    Best regards.

    Dan

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