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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio del Tin View Post
    Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
    Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

    Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!
    Hi Fab. What is the placement of patient with respect to the old diathermy output. Is the output those two angled antenna arms or is that for climbing sparks. And what about for in vitro vials.

    I have some confusion because an alternative concept
    Could have a spark device discharging into a gas tube as a terminal load . Didnt rife always use plasma tubes ??? Any thoughts? ??

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    Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio del Tin View Post
    Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.
    Violet Ray has one electrode in plasma and the charge must find earth. But all rifes tubes in old photos were not single tube . Maybe they never showed photos of the earlier apparatus. What do you think ?

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    Hello
    The charge finds earth by ionizing air, creating ozone and nitrogen oxides (smells). Tesla coil, output voltage around 20,000 volts. Wave form very similar to the first Rife apparatuses. Damped oscillations.
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    Diathermy machines have 2 poles, and they usually use a pancake coil for output at 150,000 V. But they also come with intermediate settings to have D'Oudin voltage and a lower voltage too, but at high current. You easily cook meat with the low voltage terminals.

    Rife simply used the first transformer only of the 3. He custom wound it in order to have an output of 5,000 V.
    That is just a little above the requirement to get helium full spectrum down to soft x-rays.
    If you were to use argon, you need a much higher voltage (15,000 V should suffice).

    The good advantage in using air, such as in violet wands, is that you can have a very broad spectrum. CO2 naturally has a broadband spectrum that resonates with microorganisms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Mareche View Post
    Hello
    The charge finds earth by ionizing air, creating ozone and nitrogen oxides (smells). Tesla coil, output voltage around 20,000 volts. Wave form very similar to the first Rife apparatuses. Damped oscillations.
    Best regards
    If you just use nitrogen oxide you obtain what Rife describes, matching treatment time and any other parameter. It can travel the flesh at depth at a magnitude smaller than radio wave speed.

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    Hello,
    I know these devices very well, having used them for decades for leak testing in glassware under vacuum (Holo electron devices) A potentiometer could be used to vary the output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sutherland View Post
    A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis.
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    Hi!
    This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
    - low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
    - for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
    - acidification of body fluids
    This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
    Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
    The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.
    Who is the inventor? This is a man who does not know that everyone says that something can not be done and he just does it .
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    What is the conclusion?
    What is the consensus of specialists about the devices that can eliminate cancer? breast and bone?

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    From my experience Rife is not better than others in terms of success, but is better in terms of worsening things, Chemicals and radiations can produce cancer in a healthy individual, curing cancer with that is a bad approach.
    All cases that i known treated in this way, have shorter or no longer life after diagnostic than untreated ones.
    Cancer is time consuming, a visit a week at a Rife specialist not works, it need every day attention, more times a day, Rife alone do not do much.
    All malignant cells have genetic mutations, this is the primary cause of cancer, immune system usually kill them before spreading, immunotherapy proved it`s value, but in most cases is not enough alone, Rife with immunotherapy is almost no experience, i can`t say that works.
    Metabolic or hormonal disorders or altered environment can accelerate spreading of malignant cells but is unlikely that produce cancer by themselves, mutagens (chemicals and radiations) are proved to produce cancer, perhaps in early obscure stages of developing of a cancer altered environment may help malignant cells to survive and spread, by giving them a metabolic advantage and altering immune system`s effectiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz View Post
    Hi!
    This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
    - low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
    - for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
    - acidification of body fluids
    This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
    Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
    The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.
    Agreed that there are other mechanisms that precipitate a cell into an anerobic state. I submit the only one that really matters in the case of cancer is the Rife BX BY organism infecting mitochondria and flipping the cell into an anerobic state. This sets up the cells for a carcinogen to start the random DNA mutations seen in cancer and the promoting agents to increase the rate of uncontrolled proliferation.

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    Mitochondria is a symbiotic organism has own DNA, relation with cancer is complex and almost unknown.

    some studies:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4779192/

    One thing emerge from this document, malignant cell must have required energy to proliferate, in almost tumors mitochondrial regulation and function are preserved, nuclear genome mitochondrial control is preserved and cell eliminate mutant defective mitochondria.Some tumors are related with mutant defective mitochondria, but those cells simply have not enough energy to be so aggressive.
    Signaling between mitochondria and host cell is complex.

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    Jeff,

    The process that you describe makes cancer an intelligent process, an intelligent being so-to-speak, and not just some genetic defect that causes cells to proliferate. So, cancer becomes a complexity with its own instinct for survival and living process. Its own DNA.

    Your described "flipping the cell into an anerobic state" would be the result of a DNA hybridization which would result in a new being. A parasite.

    Industrial fermenting processes utilize the bacillus litcheniformis microbe in order to "flip the cell into an anerobic state" if I am stating this correctly.

    I was just thinking that it would be a simple enough process to place some bacillus L. onto a microscope slide and expose it to frequencies ?

    dj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Jenson View Post
    Jeff,

    The process that you describe makes cancer an intelligent process, an intelligent being so-to-speak, and not just some genetic defect that causes cells to proliferate. So, cancer becomes a complexity with its own instinct for survival and living process. Its own DNA.

    Your described "flipping the cell into an anerobic state" would be the result of a DNA hybridization which would result in a new being. A parasite.

    Industrial fermenting processes utilize the bacillus litcheniformis microbe in order to "flip the cell into an anerobic state" if I am stating this correctly.

    I was just thinking that it would be a simple enough process to place some bacillus L. onto a microscope slide and expose it to frequencies ?

    dj
    The consensus among the leading scientists when I was getting my Ph.D. in Carcinogenesis was that cancer was an evolutionary innovation that enabled the animal to stay alive long enough to reproduce in a toxic environment. So in that sense it is an intelligent process.

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    Hi all:
    The response to the question is YES but!!.
    To achieve the best results the set up is of primary importance.
    I learned it in the daily doing.
    You have to have the following:
    1- Body temperature measurement and recording, hardware and software from PicoTech.com.
    You need this device to SEE what is taking place in the Clients body while you apply Rife frequencies.
    It will take you some 5-6 sessions before you can handle the temperature levels with confidence.
    You have to measure body temperature with a resolution of 0.01C, customize Pico Log to this level.
    What you measure is RATE of change. You can NOT compare true temperature between different people.
    Temp. will raise after killing the bacteria from .02 to .15C or more, with a Std time of 2min 15 second. This is an average don't take it as the rule, some bacteria's brake at 4 min!!!
    Keep notes of freq. and temp., for comparison between sessions, very important.
    Watch for common frequency like the 880.
    No Bacteria present NO temp goes up for that frequency.
    The ideal outcome is: you pass all the freq. and temp increment is zero. that is the end of treatment!!

    2- I use a 27Mhz system with linear lamp of 52 cm, I made several lamp in Neon shop until I got the right gas pressure.

    The Rife treatment is not the only thing you have to take in account.
    I started with cats and dogs to see if it worked, and all OK, and I follow with humans.

    Treatment: Almost 2hr Lamp session, 3 times a week, for three weeks.
    Sugar is forbidden, same for Carbohydrates (no visits to the bakery) and Alcohol. Eat Alkaline food.

    The surprise: Some People came back from his Doc routine control after 3 month!! How is this possible???

    After a week revising all the details I got the idea about the Bacteria eggs like Rife had, of how it reproduced, I looked at the reproduction time and found the answer. The reproduction time is 28 days!!!
    After finishing the treatment next day bacteria eggs opens and lay new eggs "Goodby Lamp Work".

    To solve this problem I used the Bob Beck Zapper, the Client should buy a Zapper and used it at home "every day" for 30 days to kill the new born Bacteria. If one day is skipped he should start all over again. For safety reasons he should use the zapper for two month.

    Control: The client should come in for temperature control during week 3 of Zapper application. Zapper can fall and brake and not work. I control the zapper with an Oscilloscope.

    I hope this comments can to increase Rife Technology to a higher degree of confidence.

    HL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionut Nebel View Post
    From my experience Rife is not better than others in terms of success, but is better in terms of worsening things, Chemicals and radiations can produce cancer in a healthy individual, curing cancer with that is a bad approach.
    All cases that i known treated in this way, have shorter or no longer life after diagnostic than untreated ones.
    Cancer is time consuming, a visit a week at a Rife specialist not works, it need every day attention, more times a day, Rife alone do not do much.
    All malignant cells have genetic mutations, this is the primary cause of cancer, immune system usually kill them before spreading, immunotherapy proved it`s value, but in most cases is not enough alone, Rife with immunotherapy is almost no experience, i can`t say that works.
    Metabolic or hormonal disorders or altered environment can accelerate spreading of malignant cells but is unlikely that produce cancer by themselves, mutagens (chemicals and radiations) are proved to produce cancer, perhaps in early obscure stages of developing of a cancer altered environment may help malignant cells to survive and spread, by giving them a metabolic advantage and altering immune system`s effectiveness.
    Hi Ionut,
    During my reading of many researches and studies (I am not a specialist)
    The human body is competent and able to heal itself without interference.
    But the toxins (which you mentioned) surrounding us from every side impede the functioning of the body.
    When cancer arises, yes, the immune system is the most important wall, and this wall cannot be destroyed by chemotherapy and radiotherapy.
    But at the same time, a direct hit must be made to the place of the tumor, as (Royal Rife and other scientists) did.
    Direct strikes to the tumor do not conflict with strengthening the immune system and cleaning the body with multiple programs that have proven to be effective.
    I am completely convinced that the mechanism that Rife worked on .. targets the tumor directly (this is my hunch and not a scientific view frankly)

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    Hi Muath!
    If You want to hit the tumor directly use 465MHz frequency but, a safe power is not known at this time(!).
    Who is the inventor? This is a man who does not know that everyone says that something can not be done and he just does it .
    Most people are like mice who see cheese but don't see the trap behind it.
    Thinking does not hurt .Stupidity kills .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horacio Lange View Post
    Hi all:
    The response to the question is YES but!!.
    To achieve the best results the set up is of primary importance.
    I learned it in the daily doing.
    You have to have the following:
    1- Body temperature measurement and recording, hardware and software from PicoTech.com.
    You need this device to SEE what is taking place in the Clients body while you apply Rife frequencies.
    It will take you some 5-6 sessions before you can handle the temperature levels with confidence.
    You have to measure body temperature with a resolution of 0.01C, customize Pico Log to this level.
    What you measure is RATE of change. You can NOT compare true temperature between different people.
    Temp. will raise after killing the bacteria from .02 to .15C or more, with a Std time of 2min 15 second. This is an average don't take it as the rule, some bacteria's brake at 4 min!!!
    Keep notes of freq. and temp., for comparison between sessions, very important.
    Watch for common frequency like the 880.
    No Bacteria present NO temp goes up for that frequency.
    The ideal outcome is: you pass all the freq. and temp increment is zero. that is the end of treatment!!

    2- I use a 27Mhz system with linear lamp of 52 cm, I made several lamp in Neon shop until I got the right gas pressure.

    The Rife treatment is not the only thing you have to take in account.
    I started with cats and dogs to see if it worked, and all OK, and I follow with humans.

    Treatment: Almost 2hr Lamp session, 3 times a week, for three weeks.
    Sugar is forbidden, same for Carbohydrates (no visits to the bakery) and Alcohol. Eat Alkaline food.

    The surprise: Some People came back from his Doc routine control after 3 month!! How is this possible???

    After a week revising all the details I got the idea about the Bacteria eggs like Rife had, of how it reproduced, I looked at the reproduction time and found the answer. The reproduction time is 28 days!!!
    After finishing the treatment next day bacteria eggs opens and lay new eggs "Goodby Lamp Work".

    To solve this problem I used the Bob Beck Zapper, the Client should buy a Zapper and used it at home "every day" for 30 days to kill the new born Bacteria. If one day is skipped he should start all over again. For safety reasons he should use the zapper for two month.

    Control: The client should come in for temperature control during week 3 of Zapper application. Zapper can fall and brake and not work. I control the zapper with an Oscilloscope.

    I hope this comments can to increase Rife Technology to a higher degree of confidence.

    HL
    very nice Horacio,
    I tried to translate your words accurately in order to fully understand everything you said.
    What you have mentioned is very useful information.
    The problem I have is that I did not get any device yet.
    I am lost between the types and the high prices.
    I am lost because I am (Arabic) and do not understand the accurate information because of Google Translate and because I am not specialized in these matters.
    I am now linking information from here and there.
    And I hope to get to something good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz View Post
    Hi Muath!
    If You want to hit the tumor directly use 465MHz frequency but, a safe power is not known at this time(!).
    Hi Stanislaw,
    sorry I embarrass myself because of my many (dumb) questions.
    but this frequency (465MHz)!! How can I get it?
    From what device?
    and what do you mean (safe power is not known at this time(!).)?

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    Hi!
    This frequency and its harmonics are used to detect cancerous tumors due to the increased absorption of this frequency by the cancer cells.
    It can be used to overheat these cells and cause them to die.
    Therefore, the necessary power is not known yet because it depends on many factors.
    Diet plus iodine is safer, but the therapy must last for about 3 months.
    I am at the stage of agreeing the test conditions and I have already built some devices.
    Who is the inventor? This is a man who does not know that everyone says that something can not be done and he just does it .
    Most people are like mice who see cheese but don't see the trap behind it.
    Thinking does not hurt .Stupidity kills .

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