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Alan Blood
12-09-2020, 03:22
I have observed and experienced, first-hand, plenty of cures and reversals of symptoms.
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Pulsed Technologies has a research arm in Romania and has verified that its P3 Pro unit has killed Candida albicans when certain frequencies are used. Whenever I do speaking engagements, I show the Candida slides from Pulsed Technologies. This company does lots of medical research, in fact, but they can't publicize it in the United States ...

Nenah Sylver, PhD

With all due respect, in 25 years I saw no collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature. I got the impression the old Baytah project fizzled out, and the uninformed gossip I heard was some devices had good reports on Lyme, but a dud for cancer.

If somebody wants to share data with me to contradict that sceptical gossip, don't be shy !!!!!

Your paragraphs on Candida sound like a breakthrough. The gossip I heard was we had nothing but failure. There are plenty of countries outside USA where the Candida work could be investigated in replication experiments. Sometimes outsider labs don't do the protocols correctly. So by all means get your colleagues to instruct the correct methods by video or on zoom.

A sceptic here might say it's all about selling yet another expensive book or device and that's all it's about. So prove them wrong !!!!! Get it into Nature journal or Lancet or any journal at all.

If your collabators just fried these bugs using a wire inserted into the sample, I won't be impressed with that unless a nearby frequency is demonstrated to fail. Putting a manufacturer in charge of an investigation is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house, hence the proposal to outsource that work.

How to find a collaborating lab willing to pay their own costs ??? Put up a project description on researchgate site. But the manufacturer must be willing to loan or donate the frequency device.

Alan Blood
12-09-2020, 03:46
I can not honestly say? The reason is because i use plasma/rife in conjunction with 12-15 other cancer or infection agents and never tried to completely discern.
Like the Italian fellow said, we talk great and have a use for each others notes - but my goal is the patient (making me look good) and i imagine for someone trying to write down that music, it would be impossible. Just like trying to keep a patient alive in a research model would be.

Plasma/rife i love for life....but I throw every lightning bolt and cascade of weaponry i have that applies to that case.

Life is a terminal illness with 100% mortality rate. The prognosis for many cancers is so poor, it would not matter if cured patients had 20 different therapies, provided you also show all the data for your dead patients too. 80 % mortality is twice as good as 90% mortality.

Meta analysis was applied to the old data of Holt here in Australia on microwave hyperthermia. It can be done on any good collation. I understand chiropractors and casual therapists are not in a position to do that alone. Many rife practicioners express fear and loathing of GP doctors. But if professionals sign off on the standard 2 year and 5 year survival data, all the meta analysis needs to do is divide that into age and sex cohorts and bingo you have a publishable result. But some of us hate and fear researchers and peer reviewed journals also. Ok not all practicioners need to participate. 2 and 5 year data in collaboration with a family doctor is a lot to ask, I get that. And it doesn't disprove Spirulina is the cure, unless you can analyse notations on the extra therapies tried.

Even with a standard proforma it really is too much to ask in this Tower of Babel forum. Actually medicos had no data 200 years ago but they did have grapevine gossip. Lancet journal was full of anecdotals on individual cases. If some therapy worked well, the efficacy was obvious. But if it's a subtle improvement of survival score, you need modern statistical methods to prove your claim.

Btw this was done with oncotherm in Germany. But it was run by pros thus easy peasy.

Fabrizio del Tin
12-09-2020, 06:08
Well that's fairly depressing. So even a Bare can't do the job unless it's hacked properly? That's how far we've come?

Bare has a line of research with Antony Holland and can prove things to work, but exact frequencies and modalities are not published, as obviously research costs.

Does it work like original Rife machines? No. Does it have 100% success rate? No. Not even 90%. It has enough that it may show interest though. It's just in the research phase.

What happens with Rife machines is that devices with big claims are manufactured before a research is completed. Science requires just the opposite. Otherwise, you do not really knowing what you are doing.

Bursting a paramecium in vitro is cool. But again, where is the blind study, the control, the verification against other frequency?
For example, it is my opinion that all frequencies would work same. Can someone prove that's not the case?

Stanislaw Chmielarz
12-09-2020, 08:10
Hi!
We have two supporters of conducting certification research for frequency machines. I would like to read what standards will these researchers refer to and what test procedures during the research and evaluation of results? I happened to prepare the device for testing before obtaining approval and a patent, but I knew exactly what scope of measurements would be performed and under what conditions. Please provide me with such standards for testing the effectiveness of cancer treatment when there are so many factors involved, which the previous speaker (Yuriy) wrote about, such as the physical condition of the patient, the mental condition of the patient and how it will affect the test results. Of course, you can choose for example lung cancer patients, only each case will be different for the reasons described above and the type / type of cancer. I propose generic tests, such as the in vitro test performed by Doug Coil's creator on a Petri dish for Lyme spirochete, which test and its method of execution can be described in detail. Unfortunately, this test, due to its pleomorphic properties of a spirochette, does not guarantee complete recovery after the first in vivo treatment. So I do not see any possibility to reliably test the frequency device in the treatment of cancer. When it comes to single parasites, pathogens, it can be done in vitro, which unfortunately does not translate into in vivo results for many reasons. The human body and the organisms of laboratory animals is not an airplane and a miniature airplane tested in the aerodynamic channel and there is no exact translation of the results of such tests.
As I wrote earlier, it is possible to perform in vivo tests with the use of computerized Vega-test equipment, only if it is reliable can only confirm the results of therapy with a given device and the frequency of emission. As it results from my information from the therapist working, this method with the emission made by contact electrodes and induction loops and the patient (my daughter-in-law), the therapy is effective, but not immediate.

Ali Rosener
12-09-2020, 09:20
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Peace be upon Yours All.
I suffered from fibromyalgia, this was diagnosed in a university hospital.
My condition was so bad, that i needed two hours every morning to get my bones moved.
It was not possible for me to open a bag or a bottle. No power and too much pain in the muscles.
I could walk 50 m distance, i had to sit down. My live started to dimmish.
I prayd to The Most High: "Please take away this evil what i feel and what i see.
The feedback was: "get a microscope and look into your blood".
I learned to see and how to act with frequency and plasma therapy.
Now i am free of fibromyalgia.
We say in germany: "wer heilt hat recht" (who cures is right).
I donīt have anything to sell.
Science, HA HA HA, In the DSM5 Dictionary for mental sickness is written, that people believe in The Most High or in the hereafter are mental ill.
Some are so ignorant and arrogant, they believe in such dictionary.
This type of corrupted science, sorry, i give a big pile of shit on it.
I showed in this Forum videos with organism, looking like red blood cells and able to throw threads like caterpillar.
Even doctors i showed, but the only reaction is "interesting".
This type of organism can cause big damage to the body, when they agglutinate, under stress.
Why are people so ignorant and donīt understand that the invivo observation with the microscope is essential.
How could mankind become so stupid and blind, just trusting labs? Is it scientific to send a sample only to one lab? sorry i would not trust.
Short time ago, we sendet a stool sample into a lab.
The consistence was like a stone.
When we got the results, there was written about the consistence of the sample was soft.
Signed by a doctor.
This was not the first time i came across such curiosity.
You canīt trust!!!! in that kind of science. Sorry.
Here the video, tell me what organism, my opinion, a adult plasmodium.
The Video is in 1080p please change the settings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1lsoOsUUw

Sincerely
** Ali **

Fabrizio del Tin
12-09-2020, 10:24
Ali, you might feel that a frequency cured you, but you cannot be certain. Science is your friend to help you know if it was really due to the frequency.

I will enumerate just a few points that make your account doubtful.

1. Illnesses have their due course. Maybe you healed because it was time to heal and not because of the frequency. Where is the control subject to figure this out? That is more people with similar illness, some untreated, some treated in different ways, etc.
2. The fact that you are so hyped about Rife is already a strong placebo effect that may influence outcome. We need subjects that are not biased to get data that are certain.
3. Your healing conclusion is already flawed, as you did not just use a frequency to heal. You also used prayer. We know that prayer is a powerful healing tool that can surpass medicine. Was it a frequency or prayer? What else did you do or take that could influence the outcome?

Unless we have pure and verified data, such accounts contribute nothing, unfortunately. We need a protocol so that all can follow.



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Peace be upon Yours All.
I suffered from fibromyalgia, this was diagnosed in a university hospital.
My condition was so bad, that i needed two hours every morning to get my bones moved.
It was not possible for me to open a bag or a bottle. No power and too much pain in the muscles.
I could walk 50 m distance, i had to sit down. My live started to dimmish.
I prayd to The Most High: "Please take away this evil what i feel and what i see.
The feedback was: "get a microscope and look into your blood".
I learned to see and how to act with frequency and plasma therapy.
Now i am free of fibromyalgia.
We say in germany: "wer heilt hat recht" (who cures is right).
I donīt have anything to sell.
Science, HA HA HA, In the DSM5 Dictionary for mental sickness is written, that people believe in The Most High or in the hereafter are mental ill.
Some are so ignorant and arrogant, they believe in such dictionary.
This type of corrupted science, sorry, i give a big pile of shit on it.
I showed in this Forum videos with organism, looking like red blood cells and able to throw threads like caterpillar.
Even doctors i showed, but the only reaction is "interesting".
This type of organism can cause big damage to the body, when they agglutinate, under stress.
Why are people so ignorant and donīt understand that the invivo observation with the microscope is essential.
How could mankind become so stupid and blind, just trusting labs? Is it scientific to send a sample only to one lab? sorry i would not trust.
Short time ago, we sendet a stool sample into a lab.
The consistence was like a stone.
When we got the results, there was written about the consistence of the sample was soft.
Signed by a doctor.
This was not the first time i came across such curiosity.
You canīt trust!!!! in that kind of science. Sorry.
Here the video, tell me what organism, my opinion, a adult plasmodium.
The Video is in 1080p please change the settings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1lsoOsUUw

Sincerely
** Ali **

Ali Rosener
12-09-2020, 13:10
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Hi Fabrizio, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
You canīt imagine how many bloodsamples i have examined, how many hours i sat on the microscope.
I know how to make the organism visible, chase them out of there hiding.
Of course i did not work thru like a egoshooter.
No, i learned, that frequency therapy can weaken pathogens and immune modulate the system.
What do You think why this leucos so behind that i call the plasmodium in that video?
Only because they got informed and instructed.
My goal is not to kill, but to clean and regenerate. Everything in the Universe matters, also the so called pathogen.
This fields do exactly what i whant. Not from today to tomorrow but some days later.
My prayer and its feedback, was the inspiration to look into my own blood. With other words, to take a much deeper look inside.
Not to look into the body liquids of a patient is somehow ignorant.
The modern doctors are blind, they donīt no anymore, just take labs away. Nowadays, You will not find much doctors anymore, taking a look into the eyes or tongue, they donīt know to read the skin and the nails, many of them donīt know.
So what, science is just a other kind of religion, having many believers and followers.
They are good in prophecy, that the cancer rate will encrease till 2025, even how much %, so what.
UN Agenda 2030 how it shall come together?
Sincerely
** Ali **

Karl Buchanan
12-09-2020, 16:13
"Btw this was done with oncotherm in Germany. But it was run by pros thus easy peasy."

Well....easy peasey.....it is a little nervy driving that train? "Controlled cooking" them is a nimble affair for what can happen. That one made me laugh. I got their brain in my hands waiting for the train to derail on me and trying to watch 5 gauges at once in a self-generated trance of focused intent. Haha. But? I do make it "look" easy peasey?
For me it is....in a nascar race kind of way...but that tickled me

Karl Buchanan
12-09-2020, 16:26
"The prognosis for many cancers is so poor, it would not matter if cured patients had 20 different therapies, provided you also show all the data for your dead patients too. 80 % mortality is twice as good as 90% mortality."

Not in our country?
The "and you get 5 years!" gaffe is atrocious. That is because they destroyed them with rad and chemo and never clean em up.....SCAM and insult too.

I tell them there is no limit known and check often. If they have any trouble, they come back.

But ALL of what you present is "pubmed" = sh*t con job

None of that is even relevant in private care, because it is just narrative to support an industry - and clearly? A population management method that competes with ours.

I do not have a lot of dead patients? I have always enjoyed high success rates and some? I do not know? If they do not respond rapidly to me, i do not "treat them unto death" I talk to them about conventional measures, the "5 years!" and that i will make sure and take the chemo and rad back out.....boom! 20 years?

So do not even try to pass off canadian chicken chucking as reliable medical information to me and think I am a poor hopeful potato. Most all that is not true at all here....unless they go to "free care" and what did they expect?

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
12-09-2020, 17:32
With all due respect, in 25 years I saw no collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature. I got the impression the old Baytah project fizzled out, and the uninformed gossip I heard was some devices had good reports on Lyme, but a dud for cancer.

If somebody wants to share data with me to contradict that sceptical gossip, don't be shy !!!!!

Your paragraphs on Candida sound like a breakthrough. The gossip I heard was we had nothing but failure. There are plenty of countries outside USA where the Candida work could be investigated in replication experiments. Sometimes outsider labs don't do the protocols correctly. So by all means get your colleagues to instruct the correct methods by video or on zoom.

A sceptic here might say it's all about selling yet another expensive book or device and that's all it's about. So prove them wrong !!!!! Get it into Nature journal or Lancet or any journal at all.

If your collabators just fried these bugs using a wire inserted into the sample, I won't be impressed with that unless a nearby frequency is demonstrated to fail. Putting a manufacturer in charge of an investigation is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house, hence the proposal to outsource that work.

How to find a collaborating lab willing to pay their own costs ??? Put up a project description on researchgate site. But the manufacturer must be willing to loan or donate the frequency device.


Alan,

I don't have the time to pursue this in the exact manner that it appears you are asking for. However, I suggest you contact the owners of the various equipment companies and ask them if they have done research, where, and by whom, etc. Explain why you want such research and what you plan to do with it.

Please keep in mind that your demand for a "collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature" from the manufacturers themselves (or sellers) is illegal in the United States. The FDA, owned by Big Pharma, has prohibited this. Any manufacturer or seller of frequency equipment can be fined and/or imprisoned for making claims and providing scientific evidence, even if those studies were done by an independent third party laboratory. Your demand for "a collation of clinical data . . . in published literature"--if by "published literature" you mean medical journals--is likewise problematic. Medical journals have been taken over by the pharmaceutical companies, which don't want anyone to publicize non-invasive and effective competition with their drugs. It's very difficult to get a valid scientific study of frequency therapy published in a medical journal. Many journal editors are outright hostile to frequency therapy. I recall that years ago, a study conducted on a frequency machine was about to be published in a medical journal, and then at the last minute it was pulled. (Don't ask me for any more information because this was a long time ago and I simply don't remember the details.)

Nonetheless, there are thousands of studies that have managed to make it into medical journals on the use of electromagnetically delivered frequencies, electricity, and magnetic fields in medicine. Most of them concentrate on pain relief, and on healing tissue and bone. Occasionally, they do discuss disabling microbes but it's usually in conjunction with the use of pharmaceuticals. These studies avoid using the terms "Rife" or "Rife Therapy" because that would certainly mean a rejection of publication. Appendix D of my Rife Handbook lists just a few of these studies, according to year--one of them dating back to 1968. Plus, some really interesting books on electromedicine date back to the 1800s. For your convenience, I have attached it to my reply.

Sincerely,
Nenah

Fabrizio del Tin
12-09-2020, 18:03
The conspiration theory or that studies are prevented in the U.S. is all bull shit. I wouldn't buy a book that revolves around those claims. Better to go to reliable literature, which easily disproves those claims. This for example:

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I think people should be tired of manufacturers that do no test and have no data, because that's usually the truth. And we know that there are so many unsubstantiated claims. It is very obvious that, if you try to patent or publish a paper so send a rocket to the moon fueled by pizza, everybody will laugh and you will get your application rejected. Do a correct research, and all will accept it.

The entire electromagnetic field is well studied and it is known what it can do and what it cannot. Any other thing is just a mystification to sell books or devices. I noticed that device manufacturers are usually very eager to make things that do not work, hiding on the claims of others. There is a clear reason for this: If it does not work, it's the guilt of the user, as he is mistaking the frequencies or using the machine wrong. If it works, by some miracle, it's a proof that the manufacturer will exhibit.
But... if a manufacturer would have a really working machine, that would be a problem. This is because a machine that works, will not just work on microbes, but will also affect somewhat the user. As with every medicine, if you just mistake dosage, you can kill. Will a manufacturer take this risk and get sued if something goes wrong? No, better to have a machine that does nothing, so it is safe. That's the current status of manufactured "Rife machines", and that's why the scientific community is against it. Rightfully, it tries to shut down an illegal business that is living on people's despair, to rip them off.

Of course, not everyone is on the same boat. Some, but too few, do serious research. The issue is that most are uneducated or live in their world, disconnected from the rest of the people (read, scientific community).

After you analyze the good and extensive scientific documentation on the subject, you will see that original Rife machines could do much more that that. Therefore, electromagnetism and frequencies are not the only means that he used. And this is where I do my own research.

Fabrizio del Tin
12-09-2020, 18:11
I add a screenshot from the books above, which show the study of electromagnetic fields also in cancer cases.

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David Shore
12-09-2020, 18:41
https://altered-states.net/index2.php look down page for parameceum murder video

Rifevideos.com has a lot of info that might help

Who is the author/owner of Rifevideos.com? Thanks.

Stanislaw Chmielarz
12-09-2020, 21:20
Hi!
Nobody thinks that it is about some conspiracy theories and mainly about the money that pharmaceutical companies can lose if it turns out that many diseases can be cured effectively (not only by masking the symptoms as they do now) and the companies would not earn anything on it. Only people paid for by these companies disparage any other way that causes their sponsors to lose their earnings. From my backyard: I wanted to work with a hospice where various cancer patients are waiting for death. Initially, I proposed a test of my ionic silver for bedsores and other skin problems of patients. I was refused because the doctor, who is paid by the state and on whom the state subsidy depends, did not allow the use of this preparation because there is no appropriate certification and nurses are allowed only to use what the doctor recommends.
Privately, many people use my preparation because it helps with skin problems and mucous membranes.
Coming back to the topic, I believe that a frequency machine can cure cancer effectively, but certainly not all devices, conditions and types of cancer. You can also cure cancer without such devices. You just need to know its weak points - Achilles heels.

Alan Blood
12-10-2020, 03:58
Neenah said : Nonetheless, there are thousands of studies that have managed to make it into medical journals on the use of electromagnetically delivered frequencies, electricity, and magnetic fields in medicine.

...... Mmmkay no argument there from me.

I would be glad to review the yeast protocol. But I have a funny feeling that scrutiny would not be welcome, even tho I am outside USA, don't work for FDA, and have a Researchgate profile and PhD on RF Bioeffects.

PM me we can arrange something by email.

The manufacturer claims are not your responsibility ? Technically that's true. But why not take it to the next level ? Who could it harm ? I am less sceptical than government employees but I can't just believe a video. I need to review the concepts for apparatus and bio protocols to determine if it's the real deal.

Karl Buchanan
12-10-2020, 06:55
Who is the author/owner of Rifevideos.com? Thanks.

Don't know em - you should look that one up on the site

Karl Buchanan
12-10-2020, 07:33
"The conspiration theory or that studies are prevented in the U.S. is all bull shit.

Not as much bullshit as that pathetic opening volley of another one of your all garlic eminence fronts! Haha!
Playing the childish switch tactic, when everybody knows very clearly it has nothing to do with research, was the end of your entire presentation. I respond poorly to being treated the pumpkin at a c level debate in the first place.

"I wouldn't buy a book that revolves around those claims. Better to go to reliable literature, which easily disproves those claims. This for example:"

We have those books and I will take your surely remote location and quaintness, as an excuse for rank ignorance of that, instead of thinking it just another thinly veiled oppotunity to insult everyone and affirm your (slippery) eminence. That would be so droll after all.

"The entire electromagnetic field is well studied and it is known what it can do and what it cannot.
Someone once told me that when someone passed a great giant steaming stinker, the only thing one can do is let it ferment there......tactics tactics tactics

(I confess, it was when i hit the "empirical evidence" of "shill or blowhardy wannbe?" that I used the excuse of porcene persona to succumb to my own awful personality and surgically point out my obvious "holes" in that research? For they seem like repetative circular A holes mostly and my frequencies resonated......pardon me and bon soi)

Alan Blood
12-10-2020, 07:36
Gosh, slippery eminence. This is pure poetry.

Alan Blood
12-10-2020, 07:57
I got the impression forum members are expected not to turn debates into insult contests . It gives the readers indigestion . When you question. Whether flatulance is politically correct. Or what the heck. To say any old thing that enters your head . Instead . Of following forum decorum . I can walk down the ghetto street any day to hear trash talk. In fact when I open the garbage bin I hear the trash talk. But hey, some days it really stinks. That's what I thinks. Anyway.

David Shore
12-10-2020, 15:06
I quickly scanned the site in the obvious places but couldn't find the info.

CharBoehm
12-10-2020, 19:06
Hi!
We have two supporters of conducting certification research for frequency machines. I would like to read what standards will these researchers refer to and what test procedures during the research and evaluation of results?...
Please provide me with such standards for testing the effectiveness of cancer treatment when there are so many factors involved, which the previous speaker (Yuriy) wrote about, such as the physical condition of the patient, the mental condition of the patient and how it will affect the test results. Of course, you can choose for example lung cancer patients, only each case will be different for the reasons described above and the type / type of cancer. [snip]


Stanislaw, thank you for posting your thoughts on this.

In reality, Dr. Milbank Johnson's 1934 cancer project at La Jolla was a group of case studies, not a true clinical trial. Even in those years, researchers knew the difference, which is significant.

The modern challenges to performing a clinical trial involving people with cancer, are tremendous. For starters, about the study design: a) finding enough study participants and control persons; b) is agency approval required; c) is a separate person needed to statistically analyze data; d) is lab equipment needed to document results; e) is the scope of a proposed study so wide that it becomes impossible to do everything in one study.

Then there are possible confounding factors that could skew the results: a) type of cancer; b) stage of cancer; c) immune status; d) age and sex.

Finally, it can be difficult to get results published, even if a study is finished. If there is a lot of money spent on a study and it is not done well, it will get torn apart faster than scavengers on a dead animal.

Many people's expectations that data should be available by now, 86 years after the La Jolla "clinical trial", is understandable. But Rife did not propose or run that trial, Johnson did. And Johnson said in a letter that the results were not yet conclusive. The 1934 "trial" has undoubtedly been overblown in its significance.

Probably the best that could be done at this juncture, unless significant funding were available, would be to report cancer "case studies" with as much detail as possible, without revealing personal information. Even then, it might require permission of the person using frequencies.

It might be much easier to do in-vitro lab work on certain pathogens, probably bacteria. And it would probably be wise to initially choose non-pathogenic bacteria, species that don't have a lot of variance (which would for instance rule out E. coli). If pathogenic bacteria were used, appropriate training would be needed for handling.

It's so good to have high expectations; it is easy to complain not enough is happening. But carrying out such projects is demanding of money, time, knowledge, and energy. And they require lots of planning. I have a relative that advises doctors and groups on designing reliable studies. When I talk with that person about these issues, it's enough to make one's head spin.

Best wishes,
Charlene Boehm

CharBoehm
12-10-2020, 19:15
I should clarify one thought that I wrote in my previous message, "It might be much easier to do in-vitro lab work on certain pathogens, probably bacteria. And it would probably be wise to initially choose non-pathogenic bacteria, species that don't have a lot of variance (which would for instance rule out E. coli)."

There is a strain of non-pathogenic Escherichia coli available, so that might work for lab testing if proper lab procedures are used which avoid contamination from other pathogenic E. coli strains.

Charlene Boehm

CharBoehm
12-10-2020, 19:52
I quickly scanned the site in the obvious places but couldn't find the info.

Hello David,

Some older versions of the paper have this information:

Written by: Jeff Garff
AAA Production Inc.
Copyright Đ 2003 & 2008
www.rifevideos.com

or

Written by: J. Garff
Copyright Đ 2003 & 2010
All rights reserved.

Hope the information is helpful for you.

Charlene Boehm

Ali Rosener
12-10-2020, 20:46
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Peace be upon Yours All.
I stand up for the E. coli Bacterium, our Friend.

How the E. coli Bacterium Can Benefit Us
The bacterium Escherichia coli is often thought of as a pathogen, but it’s typically found in the intestine as a regular part of gut flora. New work by researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder has now shown that it’s a vital part of that microbial community because it helps cells absorb iron, an essential nutrient. Reported in Cell, (https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(18)30959-0) this study sheds light on how gut bacteria are beneficial to our health, and may also improve therapeutics that aim to treat iron deficiencies.Read more
https://www.labroots.com/trending/microbiology/12513/e-coli-bacterium-benefit



Sincerely
** Ali **

Stanislaw Chmielarz
12-11-2020, 07:22
Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.

Tony Kerselaers
12-11-2020, 09:57
Hi

Novocure, maybe known to all of you, uses electric fields (for example 1V/cm internally) with dedicated frequencies (below 200KHz and with relative large tolerances) to increase survival time of cancer patients. They are doing multiple studies in different countries, for example in 5 different clinics in Belgium I am aware off. They have much material published.
Yesterday (10December 2020) they made this announcement about serious clinical investigations:
https://www.novocure.com/first-patient-enrolled-in-novocures-global-phase-3-trident-trial-of-optune-concurrent-with-radiation-therapy-in-newly-diagnosed-glioblastoma/
(https://www.novocure.com/first-patient-enrolled-in-novocures-global-phase-3-trident-trial-of-optune-concurrent-with-radiation-therapy-in-newly-diagnosed-glioblastoma/)

Besides all that activity and studies, they are also working on reducing bacteria and virus growth at higher frequency ranges; although there is not much published material available yet, you can find some information in patent application US20200016399A1.

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

They have also found that the efficiency of frequency therapy reduces during its long term use. See patent application US20200306531A1

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200306531.pdf

I thought James Bare wrote also about this effect in the past.

They also found that changing frequencies and amplitudes elevates the efficiency . See patent applications US20170281934A1 and US20140330268A1

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20170281934.pdf

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20140330268.pdf


These are mechanisms I read about before anectodely on this form and others but seems to be confirmed in serious research work

I did not see any other company or researcher publish data of repeated studies on electric fields and frequency therapy.

Tony

Yuriy Vladimirovich
12-11-2020, 13:57
Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.

That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.

Dan Jenson
12-13-2020, 09:05
Tony,

In the patent, named "Inhibiting Viral Infection"

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"

However no mechanism is given.

What are the investigators missing ?

Dan

Tony Kerselaers
12-13-2020, 10:04
Tony,

In the patent, named "Inhibiting Viral Infection"

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"

However no mechanism is given.

What are the investigators missing ?

Dan


I only mentioned a couple of links as example, find much more at their website and in publications

Tony

Ali Rosener
12-13-2020, 10:28
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That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.

Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and donīt clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.

Sincerely
** Ali **

Karl Buchanan
12-14-2020, 02:08
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Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and donīt clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.

Sincerely
** Ali **
Not always. Autoimmune responses get older people with "whatever phenomenon they are calling leaky gut" and it is why rheumatism people want to take loads of vitamin c but can't or it can dramatically exacerbate the condition

Glenn King
06-08-2021, 22:17
Hello,
What website? I don't see anyone here mentioning a site.

Stanislaw Chmielarz
06-09-2021, 10:37
At first see:
https://www.cancertutor.com

Tony Kerselaers
06-09-2021, 14:24
Hi found these recent articles:

Non-thermal membrane effects of electromagnetic fields and therapeutic applications in oncology

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02656736.2021.1914354

Immune Regulation Under Magnetic Fields

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.582772/full


Tony

Jean Mareche
06-09-2021, 15:17
Hello,
Have read the site, interesting but a major error. Cancer has been shown recently to be a DNA illness. Sequencing of tumors cell by cell gives horrible results: the quantity of errors grows during the growth of the tumors to incredible results, up to millions of errors for a cell. Taking account the natural selection, the tumor will escape every treatment, and especially immunologic ones. In my family no one passed the 5 years. It is fun not to give healing results, as the conventional medicine does not outperform in the field! And has progressed very slowly in the last century.
Best regards

Karl Buchanan
06-09-2021, 15:38
They can sure help some with supplemental, non toxic, remedials for both the cancer and the rifing.

I could not say about rife itself? Never used it alone on cancer or many things? Always part of a treatment strategy and a right fine performing one if you are only asking for what it can do and not expecting an "every time" miracle.

Some dam miraculous things happen with them sometimes too? It depends on the cancer and the practitioner. One of my all time favorite stories is the fellow who said "My wife had cancer. I took her to a man's house. When she came out, she did not have cancer." It happens. Just at my clinic, we are never totally sure what part of the whole treatment did it and do not make knowing that a priority.

Dan Jenson
06-09-2021, 19:23
Guys,

We already have all of the chemo and radiation and surgery available to terrorize cells. This would be oncologic cells as well as healthy cells. I do not wish to add anything to this horror. It is an expensive failure.

I would also say that non-thermal rife effects to cells are subtle phenomenon's anyway, and not worth the trouble.

What attracted me to Rife Technology is that Royal Rife targeted the causes of proliferating cells, and NOT live cells.

All of the trouble comes in when we target living cells while the causes of the cells remain. If we target the cells then we are no better than the chemo pushers. When you target the cells then cancer becomes a rich industry and treatment is terrorism.

This my my two cents for your consideration.

Hope it helps,

love Dan

Further comment 'edit' I just realized that there is listed 625,536 views on this string, and it is 15 pages long. Wow, congratulations Peter. How many people are going to see my rant ? I think we should defund cancer treatment and research !

Stanislaw Chmielarz
06-10-2021, 09:19
Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.

Jean Mareche
06-10-2021, 10:20
Hello,
Cancer is formed each day, due to many causes, the self irradiation by 14carbon and 40potassium (not strong but complicated) is not the least. The problem is the inability of immune system to remove them ALL. It is simple at this stage. When the cells develop and clusterize it is more and more difficult.
Best regards

Jeff Sutherland
06-10-2021, 13:13
Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.

A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis. This must be removed to prevent cancer or recurrence of cancer. It is in the food chain. It is even in some probiotic supplements. So we are constantly getting reinfected with this organism. This is why Rife cured many cancers but most had metastatic cancer later. It is also why everyone will get cancer if they live long enough. The book, Tripping Over the Truth, does a good job explaining Nobel Laureate Warburg's analysis of this problem.

The Canadian Indians taught sailors how to cure scurvy with tea that had Vitamin C. It took 200 years before the head surgeon of the Royal Navy mandated limes be put on all ships. From that point forward the Limey's ruled the waves. It has been almost 100 years since Warburg figured out the root cause of cancer and it will take another 100 years before the right person wakes up.

Last night I was watching the TV series "Downton Abbey" and the lord of the manor jumped up and vomited blood all over the table during a formal dinner. It was diagnosed as an ulcer brought on by stress. 100 years later we were still saying ulcers were an emotional problem until an Australian physician drank a beaker of H. Pylori and then biopsied his stomach showing ulcer formation. He published and eventually got a Nobel prize for this. H. Pylori is a bad bug but scanners detect it easily today and frequencies make short work of it. Maybe some cancer physician needs to drink a beaker of bacillus licheniformis. Unfortunately it is much slower acting than H. Pylori.

Alan Blood
06-15-2021, 06:39
Hi found these recent articles:

Non-thermal membrane effects of electromagnetic fields and therapeutic applications in oncology

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02656736.2021.1914354

Immune Regulation Under Magnetic Fields

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.582772/full


Tony

I found the oncotherm patent of Szasz at https://patents.google.com/patent/US9320911/en . They discuss a complex modulation involving some positive feedback from a sensor. I dont understand it all, but you could read it with the clue that the sensor unit is an SWR sensor. They mention 1/f pink noise. I am thinking the initial signal might be either clean sine or clean rectified sine ... and the shape of the mod signal is then further distorted or refined as a fourier sum (with some reference to the SWR feedback sensor input). It may be that the patent text does not clearly spell out the intention of the signal modification .... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR, and it stops adding extra harmonics once this extra action makes SWR worse. If my guess is correct, there is no special clinical or physiological aspect to this signal shaping, but minimising carrier reflection might be clinically optimal anyway (or not). If the mod shape can impact on target impedance, then maybe that is like an electrical engineer's ecstatic experience of sacred

Why would Szasz play with modulation in the first place ? Maybe because it allows higher peak RF power while limiting heating (related to average power). In older texts he used the term fractal modulation, which I beleive means like flower petals, but it may have some more obscure mathematical meaning.

Dan Jenson
06-15-2021, 12:25
So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

Dan Jenson
06-15-2021, 12:54
.... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR

Yes and the patent mentions,

"In the present invention the feed-back is the forwarded energy, and a capacitive coupling is applied."


Is this another way of identifying a resonant coupling of energy ? In the Rife way the plasma pings pulse harmonics (of the resonant fundamental) all the way up through 1 gigahertz.

This is the magic of ringing the bell ! This is how resonant coupling works.

Now we witness oncotherm is not void of a similar magic. Pink noise !

Seem's oncothgerm getrs it.

Alan, you even call this "pink number harmonics".


Pink noise



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Pink_noise_spectrum.png/220px-Pink_noise_spectrum.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pink_noise_spectrum.png)
http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.20wmf7/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pink_noise_spectrum.png)
Pink noise spectrum. Power density falls off at 10 dB/decade (−3 dB/octave).


The frequency spectrum of pink noise is linear in logarithmic space; it has equal power in bands that are proportionally wide. This means that pink noise would have equal power in the frequency range from 40 to 60 Hz as in the band from 4000 to 6000 Hz. Since humans hear in such a proportional space, where a doubling of frequency (an octave) is perceived the same regardless of actual frequency (40–60 Hz is heard as the same interval and distance as 4000–6000 Hz), every octave contains the same amount of energy and thus pink noise is often used as a reference signal in audio engineering.



see: https://sites.google.com/site/digisynthi/concepts/synthesis/noise-generators

Alan Blood
06-16-2021, 06:07
So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

The oncortherm uses an upper cone applicator of limited size and a lower waterbed functioning as a virtual second electrode. The RF irradiated area is thus limited to a defocused shape under the applicator.

There are other ways to acheive capacitive coupling e.g. using two plate electrodes.

Fabrizio del Tin
06-16-2021, 06:23
I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

Fabrizio del Tin
06-16-2021, 06:40
Just as curiosity, I attach a couple of diagrams from a femto-second mode locking argon laser by amplitude modulation. This might really be a modern Rife apparatus. It puts together the optics (see the diffraction obtained in the diagram), and the driving of the laser via an acoustic frequency (MOR).

Dan Jenson
06-16-2021, 16:41
Can this scheme possibly go more Rifian with a harmonic mode locking scheme ?

Just a suggestion.

Ali Rosener
06-16-2021, 18:20
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Peace be upon Yours All.
I think You all or the most of You have heard about this company and there System.
This is more the way of Rife.
Allways have in mind, it is important to change the environment, to dry out the cause of sickness.
When i have moose in my english grass, then i have to change the environment, poison will not do it on the long term, it would be only symptomatic.
Radio Waves can help, when we use them on the right way.


Radio-wave Therapy Proves Effective Against Liver Cancer Cells
May 31, 2019


A new targeted therapy using non-thermal radio waves has been shown to block the growth of liver cancer cells anywhere in the body without damaging healthy cells, according to a study conducted by scientists at Wake Forest School of Medicine, part of Wake Forest Baptist Health.


The study findings are published in the May 31 online edition of the journal EBioMedicine, a Lancet publication.

(Left hand image) Patient with metastatic cancer affecting various organs receiving first AM RF EMF systemic targeted treatment. Blue arrows indicate site of tumor with red lesions.
(Right hand image) Patient with complete and partial responses following months of AM RF EMF systemic targeted treatment. Light brown lesions indicate residual tumor following treatment with AM RF EMF.
https://newsroom.wakehealth.edu/-/media/WakeForest/Newsroom/Images/Page-Content/EMF-Cancer-Treatment.jpg?h=415&w=500&la=en
























https://newsroom.wakehealth.edu/News-Releases/2019/05/Radio-wave-Therapy-Proves-Effective-Against-Liver-Cancer-Cells


https://www.therabionic.com/therapy-with-the-therabionic-p1-medical-device/#themedicaldevice
5293

Sincerely
** Ali **

Peter Walker
06-17-2021, 02:19
I found the oncotherm patent of Szasz at https://patents.google.com/patent/US9320911/en . They discuss a complex modulation involving some positive feedback from a sensor. I dont understand it all, but you could read it with the clue that the sensor unit is an SWR sensor. They mention 1/f pink noise. I am thinking the initial signal might be either clean sine or clean rectified sine ... and the shape of the mod signal is then further distorted or refined as a fourier sum (with some reference to the SWR feedback sensor input). It may be that the patent text does not clearly spell out the intention of the signal modification .... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR, and it stops adding extra harmonics once this extra action makes SWR worse. If my guess is correct, there is no special clinical or physiological aspect to this signal shaping, but minimising carrier reflection might be clinically optimal anyway (or not). If the mod shape can impact on target impedance, then maybe that is like an electrical engineer's ecstatic experience of sacred geometry.

According to https://www.rife.de/oncotherm---rife-and-hyperthermia.html they changed the faceplate label from MOD to RIFE, perhaps because the Rife story is so popular.... but probably the invention is originally unrelated to Rife. There is a typo in the rife.de text. 1/3 should read 1/f.

Why would Szasz play with modulation in the first place ? Maybe because it allows higher peak RF power while limiting heating (related to average power). In older texts he used the term fractal modulation, which I beleive means like flower petals, but it may have some more obscure mathematical meaning.

Hi Alan,
as I know Prof. Szasz personally and spent hours talking to him over the years, let me correct a few things you said:

Prof. Szasz designed his Oncotherm units based on Rife research that he then further developed in a Hungarian university. He describes his methods as based on Rife, but a further development of it. RIFE was originally written on his units and that is what made me aware of them, when I saw them at the Medica trade fair in Germany. The term "Rife" was changed to "Modulation" due to negative comments from others that were made. The technology is the same, they just changed the word. They have done a number of clinical studies with their Oncothermia, which combines hyperthermia with Rife modulation and they have had proven results in the treatment of cancer. If you are looking for a company that has been involved in clinical studies, this is the one.
Szasz has told me many times that he learned a lot about Rife and that was the basis of his research that led to Oncotherm.

Alan Blood
06-17-2021, 09:27
Hi Peter. My apologies for misquoting rife.de on the faceplate label of Oncotherm. I deleted that paragraph.

If as you say Szasz feels the Oncotherm is based on Rife then I can accept that. .. It remains possible that his first modulated prototypes were developed in the years before Rife was popularized in 1988 as novel innovations. So we could agree to differ.

I met Szasz in 1994 at a Sydney conference.

There are plenty of similarities to modern Rife devices anyway especially where a phanotron tube is placed near the torso. However there is is probably no cracking spike in this non plasma applicator.

I notice the photo at rife.de has a large square top plate. Some previous models were described as having a cooled cone applicator.

Alan Blood
06-17-2021, 09:54
Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

Hi Fab. What is the placement of patient with respect to the old diathermy output. Is the output those two angled antenna arms or is that for climbing sparks. And what about for in vitro vials.

I have some confusion because an alternative concept
Could have a spark device discharging into a gas tube as a terminal load . Didnt rife always use plasma tubes ??? Any thoughts? ??

Fabrizio del Tin
06-17-2021, 11:56
Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

Alan Blood
06-17-2021, 12:13
Old diathermy is similar to Violet Ray. You also have similar electrodes. You can use effluvia on a short distance and even contact plates.

Violet Ray has one electrode in plasma and the charge must find earth. But all rifes tubes in old photos were not single tube . Maybe they never showed photos of the earlier apparatus. What do you think ?

Jean Mareche
06-17-2021, 16:14
Hello
The charge finds earth by ionizing air, creating ozone and nitrogen oxides (smells). Tesla coil, output voltage around 20,000 volts. Wave form very similar to the first Rife apparatuses. Damped oscillations.
Best regards

Fabrizio del Tin
06-17-2021, 16:46
Diathermy machines have 2 poles, and they usually use a pancake coil for output at 150,000 V. But they also come with intermediate settings to have D'Oudin voltage and a lower voltage too, but at high current. You easily cook meat with the low voltage terminals.

Rife simply used the first transformer only of the 3. He custom wound it in order to have an output of 5,000 V.
That is just a little above the requirement to get helium full spectrum down to soft x-rays.
If you were to use argon, you need a much higher voltage (15,000 V should suffice).

The good advantage in using air, such as in violet wands, is that you can have a very broad spectrum. CO2 naturally has a broadband spectrum that resonates with microorganisms.

Fabrizio del Tin
06-17-2021, 16:50
Hello
The charge finds earth by ionizing air, creating ozone and nitrogen oxides (smells). Tesla coil, output voltage around 20,000 volts. Wave form very similar to the first Rife apparatuses. Damped oscillations.
Best regards

If you just use nitrogen oxide you obtain what Rife describes, matching treatment time and any other parameter. It can travel the flesh at depth at a magnitude smaller than radio wave speed.

Jean Mareche
06-17-2021, 17:51
Hello,
I know these devices very well, having used them for decades for leak testing in glassware under vacuum (Holo electron devices) A potentiometer could be used to vary the output.
Best regards

Stanislaw Chmielarz
06-19-2021, 05:48
A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis.
.
Hi!
This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
- low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
- for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
- acidification of body fluids
This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.

Muath Abuadas
09-11-2022, 13:45
What is the conclusion?
What is the consensus of specialists about the devices that can eliminate cancer? breast and bone?

Ionut Nebel
09-11-2022, 14:20
From my experience Rife is not better than others in terms of success, but is better in terms of worsening things, Chemicals and radiations can produce cancer in a healthy individual, curing cancer with that is a bad approach.
All cases that i known treated in this way, have shorter or no longer life after diagnostic than untreated ones.
Cancer is time consuming, a visit a week at a Rife specialist not works, it need every day attention, more times a day, Rife alone do not do much.
All malignant cells have genetic mutations, this is the primary cause of cancer, immune system usually kill them before spreading, immunotherapy proved it`s value, but in most cases is not enough alone, Rife with immunotherapy is almost no experience, i can`t say that works.
Metabolic or hormonal disorders or altered environment can accelerate spreading of malignant cells but is unlikely that produce cancer by themselves, mutagens (chemicals and radiations) are proved to produce cancer, perhaps in early obscure stages of developing of a cancer altered environment may help malignant cells to survive and spread, by giving them a metabolic advantage and altering immune system`s effectiveness.

Jeff Sutherland
09-11-2022, 14:43
Hi!
This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
- low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
- for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
- acidification of body fluids
This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.

Agreed that there are other mechanisms that precipitate a cell into an anerobic state. I submit the only one that really matters in the case of cancer is the Rife BX BY organism infecting mitochondria and flipping the cell into an anerobic state. This sets up the cells for a carcinogen to start the random DNA mutations seen in cancer and the promoting agents to increase the rate of uncontrolled proliferation.

Ionut Nebel
09-11-2022, 16:36
Mitochondria is a symbiotic organism has own DNA, relation with cancer is complex and almost unknown.

some studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4779192/

One thing emerge from this document, malignant cell must have required energy to proliferate, in almost tumors mitochondrial regulation and function are preserved, nuclear genome mitochondrial control is preserved and cell eliminate mutant defective mitochondria.Some tumors are related with mutant defective mitochondria, but those cells simply have not enough energy to be so aggressive.
Signaling between mitochondria and host cell is complex.

Dan Jenson
09-11-2022, 17:12
Jeff,

The process that you describe makes cancer an intelligent process, an intelligent being so-to-speak, and not just some genetic defect that causes cells to proliferate. So, cancer becomes a complexity with its own instinct for survival and living process. Its own DNA.

Your described "flipping the cell into an anerobic state" would be the result of a DNA hybridization which would result in a new being. A parasite.

Industrial fermenting processes utilize the bacillus litcheniformis microbe in order to "flip the cell into an anerobic state" if I am stating this correctly.

I was just thinking that it would be a simple enough process to place some bacillus L. onto a microscope slide and expose it to frequencies ?

dj

Jeff Sutherland
09-11-2022, 17:37
Jeff,

The process that you describe makes cancer an intelligent process, an intelligent being so-to-speak, and not just some genetic defect that causes cells to proliferate. So, cancer becomes a complexity with its own instinct for survival and living process. Its own DNA.

Your described "flipping the cell into an anerobic state" would be the result of a DNA hybridization which would result in a new being. A parasite.

Industrial fermenting processes utilize the bacillus litcheniformis microbe in order to "flip the cell into an anerobic state" if I am stating this correctly.

I was just thinking that it would be a simple enough process to place some bacillus L. onto a microscope slide and expose it to frequencies ?

dj

The consensus among the leading scientists when I was getting my Ph.D. in Carcinogenesis was that cancer was an evolutionary innovation that enabled the animal to stay alive long enough to reproduce in a toxic environment. So in that sense it is an intelligent process.

Horacio Lange
09-12-2022, 02:14
Hi all:
The response to the question is YES but!!.
To achieve the best results the set up is of primary importance.
I learned it in the daily doing.
You have to have the following:
1- Body temperature measurement and recording, hardware and software from PicoTech.com.
You need this device to SEE what is taking place in the Clients body while you apply Rife frequencies.
It will take you some 5-6 sessions before you can handle the temperature levels with confidence.
You have to measure body temperature with a resolution of 0.01C, customize Pico Log to this level.
What you measure is RATE of change. You can NOT compare true temperature between different people.
Temp. will raise after killing the bacteria from .02 to .15C or more, with a Std time of 2min 15 second. This is an average don't take it as the rule, some bacteria's brake at 4 min!!!
Keep notes of freq. and temp., for comparison between sessions, very important.
Watch for common frequency like the 880.
No Bacteria present NO temp goes up for that frequency.
The ideal outcome is: you pass all the freq. and temp increment is zero. that is the end of treatment!!

2- I use a 27Mhz system with linear lamp of 52 cm, I made several lamp in Neon shop until I got the right gas pressure.

The Rife treatment is not the only thing you have to take in account.
I started with cats and dogs to see if it worked, and all OK, and I follow with humans.

Treatment: Almost 2hr Lamp session, 3 times a week, for three weeks.
Sugar is forbidden, same for Carbohydrates (no visits to the bakery) and Alcohol. Eat Alkaline food.

The surprise: Some People came back from his Doc routine control after 3 month!! How is this possible???

After a week revising all the details I got the idea about the Bacteria eggs like Rife had, of how it reproduced, I looked at the reproduction time and found the answer. The reproduction time is 28 days!!!
After finishing the treatment next day bacteria eggs opens and lay new eggs "Goodby Lamp Work".

To solve this problem I used the Bob Beck Zapper, the Client should buy a Zapper and used it at home "every day" for 30 days to kill the new born Bacteria. If one day is skipped he should start all over again. For safety reasons he should use the zapper for two month.

Control: The client should come in for temperature control during week 3 of Zapper application. Zapper can fall and brake and not work. I control the zapper with an Oscilloscope.

I hope this comments can to increase Rife Technology to a higher degree of confidence.

HL

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 06:38
From my experience Rife is not better than others in terms of success, but is better in terms of worsening things, Chemicals and radiations can produce cancer in a healthy individual, curing cancer with that is a bad approach.
All cases that i known treated in this way, have shorter or no longer life after diagnostic than untreated ones.
Cancer is time consuming, a visit a week at a Rife specialist not works, it need every day attention, more times a day, Rife alone do not do much.
All malignant cells have genetic mutations, this is the primary cause of cancer, immune system usually kill them before spreading, immunotherapy proved it`s value, but in most cases is not enough alone, Rife with immunotherapy is almost no experience, i can`t say that works.
Metabolic or hormonal disorders or altered environment can accelerate spreading of malignant cells but is unlikely that produce cancer by themselves, mutagens (chemicals and radiations) are proved to produce cancer, perhaps in early obscure stages of developing of a cancer altered environment may help malignant cells to survive and spread, by giving them a metabolic advantage and altering immune system`s effectiveness.

Hi Ionut,
During my reading of many researches and studies (I am not a specialist)
The human body is competent and able to heal itself without interference.
But the toxins (which you mentioned) surrounding us from every side impede the functioning of the body.
When cancer arises, yes, the immune system is the most important wall, and this wall cannot be destroyed by chemotherapy and radiotherapy.
But at the same time, a direct hit must be made to the place of the tumor, as (Royal Rife and other scientists) did.
Direct strikes to the tumor do not conflict with strengthening the immune system and cleaning the body with multiple programs that have proven to be effective.
I am completely convinced that the mechanism that Rife worked on .. targets the tumor directly (this is my hunch and not a scientific view frankly)

Stanislaw Chmielarz
09-12-2022, 06:46
Hi Muath!
If You want to hit the tumor directly use 465MHz frequency but, a safe power is not known at this time(!).

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 06:51
Hi all:
The response to the question is YES but!!.
To achieve the best results the set up is of primary importance.
I learned it in the daily doing.
You have to have the following:
1- Body temperature measurement and recording, hardware and software from PicoTech.com.
You need this device to SEE what is taking place in the Clients body while you apply Rife frequencies.
It will take you some 5-6 sessions before you can handle the temperature levels with confidence.
You have to measure body temperature with a resolution of 0.01C, customize Pico Log to this level.
What you measure is RATE of change. You can NOT compare true temperature between different people.
Temp. will raise after killing the bacteria from .02 to .15C or more, with a Std time of 2min 15 second. This is an average don't take it as the rule, some bacteria's brake at 4 min!!!
Keep notes of freq. and temp., for comparison between sessions, very important.
Watch for common frequency like the 880.
No Bacteria present NO temp goes up for that frequency.
The ideal outcome is: you pass all the freq. and temp increment is zero. that is the end of treatment!!

2- I use a 27Mhz system with linear lamp of 52 cm, I made several lamp in Neon shop until I got the right gas pressure.

The Rife treatment is not the only thing you have to take in account.
I started with cats and dogs to see if it worked, and all OK, and I follow with humans.

Treatment: Almost 2hr Lamp session, 3 times a week, for three weeks.
Sugar is forbidden, same for Carbohydrates (no visits to the bakery) and Alcohol. Eat Alkaline food.

The surprise: Some People came back from his Doc routine control after 3 month!! How is this possible???

After a week revising all the details I got the idea about the Bacteria eggs like Rife had, of how it reproduced, I looked at the reproduction time and found the answer. The reproduction time is 28 days!!!
After finishing the treatment next day bacteria eggs opens and lay new eggs "Goodby Lamp Work".

To solve this problem I used the Bob Beck Zapper, the Client should buy a Zapper and used it at home "every day" for 30 days to kill the new born Bacteria. If one day is skipped he should start all over again. For safety reasons he should use the zapper for two month.

Control: The client should come in for temperature control during week 3 of Zapper application. Zapper can fall and brake and not work. I control the zapper with an Oscilloscope.

I hope this comments can to increase Rife Technology to a higher degree of confidence.

HL

very nice Horacio,
I tried to translate your words accurately in order to fully understand everything you said.
What you have mentioned is very useful information.
The problem I have is that I did not get any device yet.
I am lost between the types and the high prices.
I am lost because I am (Arabic) and do not understand the accurate information because of Google Translate and because I am not specialized in these matters.
I am now linking information from here and there.
And I hope to get to something good

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 06:56
Hi Muath!
If You want to hit the tumor directly use 465MHz frequency but, a safe power is not known at this time(!).

Hi Stanislaw,
sorry I embarrass myself because of my many (dumb) questions.
but this frequency (465MHz)!! How can I get it?
From what device?
and what do you mean (safe power is not known at this time(!).)?

Stanislaw Chmielarz
09-12-2022, 07:34
Hi!
This frequency and its harmonics are used to detect cancerous tumors due to the increased absorption of this frequency by the cancer cells.
It can be used to overheat these cells and cause them to die.
Therefore, the necessary power is not known yet because it depends on many factors.
Diet plus iodine is safer, but the therapy must last for about 3 months.
I am at the stage of agreeing the test conditions and I have already built some devices.

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 07:42
Hi!
This frequency and its harmonics are used to detect cancerous tumors due to the increased absorption of this frequency by the cancer cells.
It can be used to overheat these cells and cause them to die.
Therefore, the necessary power is not known yet because it depends on many factors.
Diet plus iodine is safer, but the therapy must last for about 3 months.
I am at the stage of agreeing the test conditions and I have already built some devices.

Do I understand from your words that this frequency cannot be reached until this moment?
Can I get one of my friends who speak English and understand electricity to communicate with you? I desperately need a frequency to be effective in bone cancer

Stanislaw Chmielarz
09-12-2022, 07:52
Do I understand from your words that this frequency cannot be reached until this moment?

This must be a special device which can generate such a high frequency. Ordinary "Rife" devices, I know, cannot go as high.

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 08:02
This must be a special device which can generate such a high frequency. Ordinary "Rife" devices, I know, cannot go as high.

So these devices are not capable?
like: john bedini (RPX) or Lakhovsky Multiple Wave?
So what is the solution?

Carlos Palau
09-12-2022, 08:28
INDIBA invests a lot of resources in researching its technology to ensure the best results. During this research, a team from the highly regarded Spanish University Hospital Ramón y Cajal in Madrid (Dr. Ubeda and his team) have been investigating what happens to the body's cells when INDIBA is applied. They have found that INDIBA's 448 kHz frequency is effective in stimulating stem cell proliferation and differentiation, and that normal healthy cells are not damaged in the process. Tests were also carried out on certain types of cancer cells in vitro, where it was found that the number of these cells decreased, but not the number of normal cells, making it a safe process to use on humans and therefore also on animals.


Muath, the closest we have to a true Rife is to use a plasma system of at least 60 watts, with transport or direct frequencies above 3.0 Mhz.


john bedini (RPX) is just a signal mixer, not a Rife.
Lakhovsky Multiple Wave is another technology, in general it helps the electrical repolarisation of the cells, but does not cure anything specifically.


a good device is expensive... for many technical reasons that require it, not the whim of the manufacturer...

unfortunately I haven't treated anyone for bone cancer, I don't know what can help.

to better understand what a Rife system is, here is the breakdown.
https://www.rifevideos.com/the_rife_machine_report.html


maybe the better machine for cancer is this: https://www.resonantlight.com/

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 09:53
INDIBA invests a lot of resources in researching its technology to ensure the best results. During this research, a team from the highly regarded Spanish University Hospital Ramón y Cajal in Madrid (Dr. Ubeda and his team) have been investigating what happens to the body's cells when INDIBA is applied. They have found that INDIBA's 448 kHz frequency is effective in stimulating stem cell proliferation and differentiation, and that normal healthy cells are not damaged in the process. Tests were also carried out on certain types of cancer cells in vitro, where it was found that the number of these cells decreased, but not the number of normal cells, making it a safe process to use on humans and therefore also on animals.

I checked their site earlier but as I told you due to my lack of expertise and experience, I couldn't choose between the devices.
But now, because of your wonderful advice, I sent them an explanation of the situation and I am now waiting for a response.


Muath, the closest we have to a true Rife is to use a plasma system of at least 60 watts, with transport or direct fre
quencies above 3.0 Mhz.

And The closest to these frequencies is the device available at INDIBA ?

john bedini (RPX) is just a signal mixer, not a Rife.
Lakhovsky Multiple Wave is another technology, in general it helps the electrical repolarisation of the cells, but does not cure anything specifically.


really!!
I thought Bedini's techniques were the closest (based on my non-specialist, non-scientific research) and based on communication with one of the partners in this company.


a good device is expensive... for many technical reasons that require it, not the whim of the manufacturer...
you know? I was and am still willing to sell the rest of what I had (my car)money is very important
But what really matters is, where do I spend it because I am lost between information and devices

unfortunately I haven't treated anyone for bone cancer, I don't know what can help.
I wish you great success, and I wish every specialist and creator to get rid of obstacles and save as many people as he can.
Do you use many devices?

to better understand what a Rife system is, here is the breakdown.
https://www.rifevideos.com/the_rife_machine_report.html

I read and translated a lot of this site from English to Arabic.
Understood the outlines
I did not find a clear solution
But with every reading, I am completely convinced that there is a device capable of treating people from these diseases
It's real, not just a fairy tale

maybe the better machine for cancer is this: https://www.resonantlight.com/
I also visited this site before
But what was missing from me
..is the advice of professionals like you.
Now I will strive to find the best solution
I thank you very much
I don't want to bother you any more, I don't want to bother you any more, but let me ask you, as I asked others:
About the possibility of contacting you with a friend who speaks English and has experience in this field to get accurate and truthful information?

Carlos Palau
09-12-2022, 10:24
I don't think there is a clear solution for this "cancer", it is more complicated than just having helicobacter .... I would try doctors who also use phytotherapy which is very powerful and beneficial.

Indiba is not Rife, but it is a very good piece of equipment that maybe someone has out there.


I don't do therapy, I only manufacture the equipment... and I'm sorry but I don't speak English.


I think all the summary knowledge about Rife is in Nenah Silver's book.
http://www.rifehandbook.com/

frequencies most commonly used in bone cancer

10025, 10026, 10027, 12000, 13280, 20080, 21275, 34000, 34048, 34096, 34240, 34320, 45872, 49040, 52808, 53376, 56384, 58752, 59408

Muath Abuadas
09-12-2022, 11:28
I don't think there is a clear solution for this "cancer", it is more complicated than just having helicobacter .... I would try doctors who also use phytotherapy which is very powerful and beneficial.
sure ofcourse
We take many effective herbs and natural substances.
But the presence of a device that affects the disease directly reduces the burden on the body
Indiba is not Rife, but it is a very good piece of equipment that maybe someone has out there.


I don't do therapy, I only manufacture the equipment... and I'm sorry but I don't speak English.
I meant to communicate in to manufacture a device

I think all the summary knowledge about Rife is in Nenah Silver's book.
http://www.rifehandbook.com/

frequencies most commonly used in bone cancer

10025, 10026, 10027, 12000, 13280, 20080, 21275, 34000, 34048, 34096, 34240, 34320, 45872, 49040, 52808, 53376, 56384, 58752, 59408
These frequencies are important
Regardless of which device it comes from?
Is my understanding correct?


really thank you Carlos

Carlos Palau
09-16-2022, 06:27
These are general frequencies found on all machines on the market and the only known frequencies for bone cancer, as I said, unfortunately, there is very little research on frequencies for this particular cancer.

Carlos Palau
09-16-2022, 07:09
you can build your machine with components already tested by other users.


the spooky generator has a very comprehensive software and allows you to program your stuff and have it stored there without depending on the computer.
https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product/spooky2-generatorx/

control board and plasma tube coupling coil can be purchased assembled.
https://spectrotek.com/pa3.htm

https://spectrotek.com/lc31.htm

the plasma tube can be ordered from Canada, the best manufacturer on the market without a doubt.
8 inch Phanotron tube
http://billsplasmatubes.com/

any of us can give you some advice on frequencies, if you need to buy for the treatment you can order them from us:
https://www.dnafrequencies.com/human-diseases

Muath Abuadas
09-17-2022, 09:10
you can build your machine with components already tested by other users.


the spooky generator has a very comprehensive software and allows you to program your stuff and have it stored there without depending on the computer.
https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product/spooky2-generatorx/

control board and plasma tube coupling coil can be purchased assembled.
https://spectrotek.com/pa3.htm

https://spectrotek.com/lc31.htm

the plasma tube can be ordered from Canada, the best manufacturer on the market without a doubt.
8 inch Phanotron tube
http://billsplasmatubes.com/

any of us can give you some advice on frequencies, if you need to buy for the treatment you can order them from us:
https://www.dnafrequencies.com/human-diseases


hi Carlos
You helped me so much
And I started searching in my country for some specialists
to make the right device.
I have kept all the links you sent me.
I will tell you every progress I can make
You have given me a lot of explanation

Muath Abuadas
09-17-2022, 09:17
you can build your machine with components already tested by other users.


the spooky generator has a very comprehensive software and allows you to program your stuff and have it stored there without depending on the computer.
https://www.spooky2-mall.com/product/spooky2-generatorx/

control board and plasma tube coupling coil can be purchased assembled.
https://spectrotek.com/pa3.htm

https://spectrotek.com/lc31.htm

the plasma tube can be ordered from Canada, the best manufacturer on the market without a doubt.
8 inch Phanotron tube
http://billsplasmatubes.com/

any of us can give you some advice on frequencies, if you need to buy for the treatment you can order them from us:
https://www.dnafrequencies.com/human-diseases



As I told you, I will send this information to the specialist when I find him.
But just to be a little more understandable:
These tools and devices have to be grouped together to reach the greatest possible help and impact?

Carlos Palau
09-18-2022, 10:08
yes, as listed, you get a 3.1 or 3.3 Mhz Carrier Rife, depending on the order, a complete set.


However, you need a good assembly technician.


if you need help, just ask us.

Ovidiu Bistriceanu
09-19-2022, 19:24
This is incredible information indeed. I've been trying to figure out myself which route to go and the genX (with the software ) - SPA5 - LC3 - 8 inch Phanotrom tube from Bill seems like a good option. Has anyone ever measured the output of a GenX ? is it consistent - putting out what it's supposed to be? I'm scared it's doing something other than what it says.
Is there any downside from a technical point in using a good sound card + Fredx as the generator instead of the Genx+software? Just curious.

Carlos Palau
09-19-2022, 20:45
PA3 Rife Plasma Tube Amplifier and LC31 is totally complete for what you need.

The genx is very accurate, and can handle higher frequency ranges, in my experience the 3.3Mhz carrier range is best suited to frequencies from 20000 to 70000 Hz.

If you don't mind relying on the computer you can buy the basic $100 spooky one.

Ionut Nebel
09-23-2022, 18:26
Treating cancer is a time consuming endeavour you can try a frequency/set it may work some time, you need find other and other, i had no success perhaps some ones made it.
When cancer goes clinical time is gone, is already a multitude of clones of malignant cells, early detection is important, I no agree to use chemicals and radiations in any stage of cancer, especially in early cancer,
Very important, patient must stop eat meat, this thing alone can be stop evolution to clinical cancer.
Early detection by frequency was discussed in this forum, now are available PCR test that can detect cancer years before goes clinical.

As we discussed earlier cancer seems to an integrated entity not a collection of mutant cells, cancerous cells preserve most important systems as aerobic respiration, adhesion, signaling. tumor can a parasitic organism.
Another approach in cancer is to limit growth speed in a hard way, by limiting protein and manufacturing capability.

Normal cells do not use that machinery at full speed, but if is slowed down normal cells use it close the new limit, malignant cells lose that advantage, even if run that machinery at full speed (hard way slowed).

A way do to this is to break ribosomal complex by frequency, escaping mutations are unlikely, this is a long term evolution system, it has very few working variants.

If yow if you make immune system to recognize tumor as non self after you slow it down in hard way you may cure cancer.

Stanislaw Chmielarz
09-26-2022, 10:04
I will add some important weaknesses of cancer cells:
- the LD50 index is much lower for cancer cells than for healthy cells
- cancer cells stop multiplying in an alkaline environment, various therapies use it (honey-cinnamon, maple syrup - soda)
- cancer cells have lower resistance to high temperature than healthy cells (oncothermia)
- cancer cell complexes absorb 465MHz, so they can be detected and destroyed by overheating
- a method based on a urine test to determine whether the body has a cancerous process developed by a doctor from the Philippines has been known for a long time

Muath Abuadas
09-26-2022, 13:05
- a method based on a urine test to determine whether the body has a cancerous process developed by a doctor from the Philippines has been known for a long time
Hi Stanislaw
Does this test have a specific name?
Tried searching for it on google
It seems that it is not available in all places?

Ionut Nebel
09-26-2022, 17:56
I know that some chemicals related with cancer can be detected by trained dogs in urine, sweat, respiration, or simply smelling that person, but PCR proved more sensitive and is routinely available, detection is as least 3 years in advance to go clinical it finds transcripts of genes used by cancerous cells and not used by normal cells.

In cancer management you may consider systems evolution, some parts of genome are highly conserved, same information for more than 1 billion years, revealed by extensive sequencing of DNA of many species.

About 465MHz is easy to generate but i have no experience, i purchased some broad band power d mos fets up to 2 Ghz, 100w, even I was a child 30 years ago I generated some w in that band, now i see is perfectly possible to use a fiber laser as carrier, and target tumors.

Joseph Paul Roxas
07-31-2023, 19:49
That was developed by Manuel D. Navarro, M.D.
It's called HCG Urine Immunoassay.
Check out navarromedicalclinic.com
It is now run by his son, Efren Navarro, M.D.

---Paul Roxas, Philippines

Rick Rac
07-31-2023, 22:50
Seems like they are no longer doing HCG testing anymore. Any other folks doing this in the USA?

Lisa Replogle
06-26-2024, 00:36
Do you have any advise on frequency for a GIST tumor. I started at frequency 2008, then advanced to 2128. However, neither frequency has shrunk the tumors. I still believe that the machine works, it's just this cancer is a bit rare so there's no data out there. Thanks for your input.

Yuriy Vladimirovich
06-26-2024, 03:00
Hello.
I would start treatment with flukes - intestinal fluke and fluke of the pancreas and liver - min. 30 minutes each, frequencies of Hulda Clark and Ch. Boehm. Then - Trichomonas and Helicobacter Pylori. Also Actinomycosis, Candida, Aspergillus. There can be many reasons - you need to look for the reason. Try R. Rife's original frequencies. What device do you have?
You also need to undergo an antiparasitic course of treatment.

Lisa Replogle
06-26-2024, 13:03
I'm not sure what you mean by "flukes", this type of cancer is a sarcoma not a parasite. I have a coiling machine build by "Doug Coil Machines", it's an amplified frequency generator. I have been tested for H. pylori and it's negative. I have had a ton of genetic testing on my blood and the original specimen removed in 2020 and doctor's are baffeled as to the reason. Thanks for your reply.

Yuriy Vladimirovich
06-26-2024, 17:01
Frequency 2008 is a 10-fold reduction in the sideband frequency for sarcoma - 20080, R. Rife and F. Hoyland. It operates only as a sideband with a carrier frequency of 3.3 MHz. But for this you need M.O.P.A. with plasma lamp. Just running the 2008 frequency won't do anything and Doug Coyle can't cure cancer. It's my opinion.

And about the role of parasites in the formation of cancer, read the works of H. Clark.
Cancer is a combination of several types of pathogens - for carcinoma, this is at least 2 pathogens (for example: bacteria + protozoa), and for sarcoma - at least 4 pathogens, so sarcoma is not treated and has never been treated - few people understand the reason for its formation. And since it is very difficult to diagnose pathogens, you need to act by the method of elimination - destroy pathogens sequentially: 1. first - parasites, because they are reservoirs for storing fungi, bacteria and viruses.
2. then - the protozoa.
3. then - fungi.
4. bacteria.
5. viruses.
​Frequencies alone are NOT ENOUGH for sarcoma!
But you can do as you see fit.

Stanislaw Chmielarz
06-26-2024, 18:19
Let's look at it from a different angle.
Cancerous cell changes can be detected and removed at an early stage by the immune system, but this immune system must have "free processing capacity" and if it is busy keeping larger numbers of pathogens in check, it simply cannot cope and the pathogens take over. Similarly with cases of activation of pathogenic bacteria during any "viral" infection.

Lisa Replogle
06-27-2024, 13:02
Frequency 2008 is a 10-fold reduction in the sideband frequency for sarcoma - 20080, R. Rife and F. Hoyland. It operates only as a sideband with a carrier frequency of 3.3 MHz. But for this you need M.O.P.A. with plasma lamp. Just running the 2008 frequency won't do anything and Doug Coyle can't cure cancer. It's my opinion.

And about the role of parasites in the formation of cancer, read the works of H. Clark.
Cancer is a combination of several types of pathogens - for carcinoma, this is at least 2 pathogens (for example: bacteria + protozoa), and for sarcoma - at least 4 pathogens, so sarcoma is not treated and has never been treated - few people understand the reason for its formation. And since it is very difficult to diagnose pathogens, you need to act by the method of elimination - destroy pathogens sequentially: 1. first - parasites, because they are reservoirs for storing fungi, bacteria and viruses.
2. then - the protozoa.
3. then - fungi.
4. bacteria.
5. viruses.
​Frequencies alone are NOT ENOUGH for sarcoma!
But you can do as you see fit.


Thanks, Yuriy...I had someone else tell me something similar. So I have added Ivermectin, Febendazole (for parasites) and Peach Tree Extract (for molds) along with going back to frequency 2008 but increasing my time on the machine. I appreciate your input! PS: Keeping Ukraine in our prayers!

Lisa Replogle
06-27-2024, 13:10
Thanks for your input Stanislaw. I believe what you are saying. I had been cancer free for almost 4 years, but had several surgeries (unrelated) last year. My hip surgery caused a fat emboli in my lungs, that lead to a heart attack. All is fine now with no heart damage. Then another surgery just a couple months later. I believe this put too much stress on my whole body and it could not fight off the cancer. I have added Ivermectin, Febendazole and Peach Tree Extract (for mold) to my regiment and lastly, I'm going back to coiling at 2008. I am also taking a much harder look at my diet. Even though I've lost weight, I still eat too much sugar! So I'm hoping all of this combined will allow my body to become strong and along with coiling, will be abel to fight this cancer. Thank you again and God Bless!

Yuriy Vladimirovich
06-27-2024, 13:59
What is the maximum frequency your device can produce? I believe that the higher the frequency, the better.

Rodney Basford
06-29-2024, 09:17
What is the maximum frequency your device can produce? I believe that the higher the frequency, the better.

Higher frequencies can be better. Higher frequencies can be used on lower frequency machines by calculating and using the lower harmonic frequencies of the higher frequency.

Also, sweeping around a frequency can be useful. And varying the wave form can help, for instance changing from sine to square form.

Jean Mareche
06-29-2024, 09:36
Hello
Changing the waveform is changing number and relative amplitudes of harmonics, playing with the Fourier transform. With a generator able to construct the waveform (from a lookup table) you can make whatever you want.
Best regards

Lisa Replogle
07-01-2024, 18:24
Thank all of you for your responses. Unfortunately, most of your suggestions are far beyond my knowledge. I do know my machine only goes to 2200. One of the major issues I believe is I've been coiling in the wrong area because the MRI report was mis-leading in it's description. I have gone back to 2008 frequency for sarcomas, used a better placement of the coil and have continued to up the time to 10 minutes every 3rd day...in addition, I have added Ivermectin, fenbendazole and gone on a strick KETO diet. Hopefully this will help boost my immune system while killing the cancer! Thank you all again!

Lisa Replogle
07-01-2024, 18:25
2200 is the highest...

Amy Schrift
02-15-2025, 20:02
Greetings. I am a new member with a diagnosis of advanced endometrium cancer that has now moved beyond the uterus. I have a GB-4000 and have used one of the channels called Endometrium Cancer but would like to have more protocol and how to use the machine most effectively, frequency of use, is a channel more effective than sweeping, the authors of the channels are unknown and very much hoping that the quote by Charles Claessens:
If you don't get enough power at the right frequency to the tumor, you end up stimulating the cancer into growing more, rather than killing it, just as Rife said. would not apply!
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Amy

Yuriy Vladimirovich
02-16-2025, 02:52
Hi.
Use general Rife frequencies for cancer and sarcoma - 1607450 Hz, 11780000 Hz, 1529520 Hz, 1143000 Hz - all these frequencies are in the book and are included in the programs.
The cause of tumors can be infection with various pathogens.
They are difficult to diagnose, so you can use the method of exclusion.
If you do not understand how to act, look for a good specialist - you will not cope on your own, you will only waste time.
Cancer is not a place for experiments.

Yuriy Vladimirovich
02-24-2025, 05:27
GIST [Gastrointestinal Stromal Tumor]: 0.12, 0.2, 0.9, 47.5, 5.26, 127.25, 335.91, 487.5, 692.49, 752.01 - in KHz ( x 1000)

Yuriy Vladimirovich
02-24-2025, 05:31
Endometrial Cancer: 0.35, 0.93, 12.33, 25.23, 35.69, 87.5, 93.5, 233.63, 434, 519.34
Endometrial Polyps: 1.22, 3.27, 4.23, 6.87, 9.03, 74.05, 103.83, 274.35, 388.32, 482.23
Endometrioma [Ovary]: 0.13, 0.57, 0.78, 12.27, 68.29, 135.25, 272.72, 425.53, 733.91, 836.42
Endometriosis [Ovary]: 0.13, 0.57, 0.78, 12.27, 68.29, 355.72, 434.15, 571, 839, 932
- in KHz ( x 1000)