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    Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

    Quote Originally Posted by CharBoehm View Post
    Hi Leroy,

    I am coming up with different numbers than you did, based on 3 billion base pairs.

    From your comments, I get the impression that you think that DNA-related frequencies are just in lower, audio-range octaves or regions.

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    Well, it is sometimes hard for me to communicate in text, I guess. I have no doubt that your DNA frequencies are not JUST in the lower audio range octaves or regions. According to the paper as I read it, you could keep going down in octaves until you are in the lower ranges, and based on THE particular machine used, you would divide by 2 until you were in an acceptable frequency range for THAT machine.

    You are correct, my numbers were off...based on 3 billion base pairs. I should have used your numbers to make sure my calculations were correct. I hate it when I do stupid things...which is most of the time.

    The following is just for discussion, as you have given several reasons as to why a normal human cell should not be destroyed by frequencies. For the sake of this discussion, let us assume that we could be harmed, and that the number of base pairs in human DNA is 3 billion.


    That being said...then the following debilitating frequencies could cause a human harm:

    frequencies of: 198, 396, 791.9, 1583.8, (times 2 on up) etc.

    One of the most interesting (scary) things about this formula is that the more base pairs present in the target, the closer the lower octaves are to the "base" debilitating frequency, because the number of base pairs is in the divisor.

    Of course, the numbers for human DNA are not accurate, because I have not found any place that can definitively say an exact number of base pairs for human DNA. But lets just go with this discussion and say that 3 billion pairs is correct.

    HUMAN DNA DEBILITATION FREQ: 396 is 20 octaves from the base debilitating frequency.

    Plasmid cp9 containing 9386 base pairs - DEBILITATING FREQ of 482.8 is a whopping 38 octaves below the base debilitating freq.

    So, what I was trying to say, is this: The relative debilitating frequencies for human DNA (no matter what the actual number of base pairs) is at a lower octave than any of the pathogens we are trying to kill. This, without your excellent reasons as to why we are not harmed, would have given pause to using frequencies close to any debilitating frequencies for human dna....

    Leroy

    P.S. Sorry about the screwed up numbers in the previous post and I hope this made more sense.
    Last edited by Leroy Dissinger; 05-30-2010 at 11:57.

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    Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

    This is a bit out of the way; But I work in a industrial facility. My job at one time was monitoring very large scale systems, used for weighing up large amounts of raw materials in a very short period of time. In order to accomplish this, very powerful vibrators/shakers would come on to start the weighing process.
    I'm guessing these shaker systems run off of 440Vac and vibrate, I'm guessing between 40-60 times per second.

    It never failed to just amaze me that when I had to walk by that shaker that my whole chest/abdomen would vibrate to that vibration and much more than enough to notice.....it felt kinda nice.

    There was definitely a sympathetic resonance event occurring. And though one can speculate about the exact frequency, the Amplitude of that vibration was a major contributor to that physical response.

    Though I didn't turn into a mud-puddle, some might argue that my brains got a little mushed up. : )

    Anyway, Amplitude should come into play somewhere in order to create a significant sympathetic resonance, I believe.
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    Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Haislip View Post
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    Anyway, Amplitude should come into play somewhere in order to create a significant sympathetic resonance, I believe.
    I'm still a newbie to actual therapy for illnesses, but from what I've seen (I believe it was on the John Bedini web site) amplitude (i.e. voltage) was also given for the various pathogens.

    So, it is just the frequency, or is it a combination or frequency and amplitude?

    Leroy

    P.S. I've seen frequencies specified (suggested) from various system manufacturers but not amplitude...or am I just missing it.

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    Hi Leroy,
    Let me introduce you to Dr. Gary Wade
    http://www.rifeenergymedicine.com/services.html
    Gary has published some of the best papers out there.
    The machine he offers uses physical vibrations to induce resonance with whatever the target is.
    So in trying to move back in line with the Thread title, it will be found by reading his website that his unit runs a range of frequencies from 0hz-80Mhz. I believe that will most likely cover the frequency range of your concern.

    Another analogy on Amplitude is the one spotlighting Ella Fritzgerald in that old memorex commercial.
    In that example Ellas' voice set up a resonance with the wine glass and when her voice was Amplified the glass shattered.
    But to your question regarding the amplitude of the devices on the market, it seems reasonable to me that the amplitude requirements of someone who carries 100lbs of body fat would be much higher than some one with a extremely low body mass index since lipids act as insulators to electrical current.
    I hope you enjoy Gary's papers




    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Dissinger View Post
    I'm still a newbie to actual therapy for illnesses, but from what I've seen (I believe it was on the John Bedini web site) amplitude (i.e. voltage) was also given for the various pathogens.

    So, it is just the frequency, or is it a combination or frequency and amplitude?

    Leroy

    P.S. I've seen frequencies specified (suggested) from various system manufacturers but not amplitude...or am I just missing it.
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    @Randall,

    I appreciate the direction to Dr. Gary Wades site. Bedini mentions him on his interview with Rense as well as the BCX Ultra and a non-descriptive mention of a few others.

    Dr. Wades approach is fascinating and very different from others i have seen, both in the scanning approach and method of delivery.

    In keeping with the title of the thread, Dr. Wade mentions that there are frequencies that are harmful to the human cell, but does not specify what those frequencies are. I guess we are left to our own devices to figure that out...or maybe someone (with a Wade machine) has or could contact Dr. Wade to find out what frequencies he believes are harmful.

    Leroy
    Last edited by Leroy Dissinger; 06-06-2010 at 13:51. Reason: clarification

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    Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

    I read one manual that states that 1840 and 1910 can have serious long term deleterious effects and even stimulate growth in malignant tumors.

    Does anyone have information on these frequencies and a reason or confirmation of the above?

    Leroy

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