Can a Rife machine cure cancer?

[Yuriy Vladimirovich]

Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.

That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.

[Ali Rosener]

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That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.

Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and don´t clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.

Sincerely
** Ali **

[Karl Buchanan]

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Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and don´t clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.

Sincerely
** Ali **

Not always. Autoimmune responses get older people with "whatever phenomenon they are calling leaky gut" and it is why rheumatism people want to take loads of vitamin c but can't or it can dramatically exacerbate the condition

[Alan Blood]

Hi Peter. My apologies for misquoting rife.de on the faceplate label of Oncotherm. I deleted that paragraph.

If as you say Szasz feels the Oncotherm is based on Rife then I can accept that. .. It remains possible that his first modulated prototypes were developed in the years before Rife was popularized in 1988 as novel innovations. So we could agree to differ.

I met Szasz in 1994 at a Sydney conference.

There are plenty of similarities to modern Rife devices anyway especially where a phanotron tube is placed near the torso. However there is is probably no cracking spike in this non plasma applicator.

I notice the photo at rife.de has a large square top plate. Some previous models were described as having a cooled cone applicator.

[Dan Jenson]

Tony,

In the patent, named "Inhibiting Viral Infection"

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"

However no mechanism is given.

What are the investigators missing ?

Dan

[Tony Kerselaers]

Tony,

In the patent, named "Inhibiting Viral Infection"

https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200016399.pdf

It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"

However no mechanism is given.

What are the investigators missing ?

Dan

I only mentioned a couple of links as example, find much more at their website and in publications

Tony

[Stanislaw Chmielarz]

At first see:
https://www.cancertutor.com

[Jean Mareche]

Hello,
Have read the site, interesting but a major error. Cancer has been shown recently to be a DNA illness. Sequencing of tumors cell by cell gives horrible results: the quantity of errors grows during the growth of the tumors to incredible results, up to millions of errors for a cell. Taking account the natural selection, the tumor will escape every treatment, and especially immunologic ones. In my family no one passed the 5 years. It is fun not to give healing results, as the conventional medicine does not outperform in the field! And has progressed very slowly in the last century.
Best regards

[Karl Buchanan]

They can sure help some with supplemental, non toxic, remedials for both the cancer and the rifing.

I could not say about rife itself? Never used it alone on cancer or many things? Always part of a treatment strategy and a right fine performing one if you are only asking for what it can do and not expecting an "every time" miracle.

Some dam miraculous things happen with them sometimes too? It depends on the cancer and the practitioner. One of my all time favorite stories is the fellow who said "My wife had cancer. I took her to a man's house. When she came out, she did not have cancer." It happens. Just at my clinic, we are never totally sure what part of the whole treatment did it and do not make knowing that a priority.

[Dan Jenson]

Guys,

We already have all of the chemo and radiation and surgery available to terrorize cells. This would be oncologic cells as well as healthy cells. I do not wish to add anything to this horror. It is an expensive failure.

I would also say that non-thermal rife effects to cells are subtle phenomenon's anyway, and not worth the trouble.

What attracted me to Rife Technology is that Royal Rife targeted the causes of proliferating cells, and NOT live cells.

All of the trouble comes in when we target living cells while the causes of the cells remain. If we target the cells then we are no better than the chemo pushers. When you target the cells then cancer becomes a rich industry and treatment is terrorism.

This my my two cents for your consideration.

Hope it helps,

love Dan

Further comment 'edit' I just realized that there is listed 625,536 views on this string, and it is 15 pages long. Wow, congratulations Peter. How many people are going to see my rant ? I think we should defund cancer treatment and research !

[Stanislaw Chmielarz]

Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.

[Jeff Sutherland]

Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.

A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis. This must be removed to prevent cancer or recurrence of cancer. It is in the food chain. It is even in some probiotic supplements. So we are constantly getting reinfected with this organism. This is why Rife cured many cancers but most had metastatic cancer later. It is also why everyone will get cancer if they live long enough. The book, Tripping Over the Truth, does a good job explaining Nobel Laureate Warburg's analysis of this problem.

The Canadian Indians taught sailors how to cure scurvy with tea that had Vitamin C. It took 200 years before the head surgeon of the Royal Navy mandated limes be put on all ships. From that point forward the Limey's ruled the waves. It has been almost 100 years since Warburg figured out the root cause of cancer and it will take another 100 years before the right person wakes up.

Last night I was watching the TV series "Downton Abbey" and the lord of the manor jumped up and vomited blood all over the table during a formal dinner. It was diagnosed as an ulcer brought on by stress. 100 years later we were still saying ulcers were an emotional problem until an Australian physician drank a beaker of H. Pylori and then biopsied his stomach showing ulcer formation. He published and eventually got a Nobel prize for this. H. Pylori is a bad bug but scanners detect it easily today and frequencies make short work of it. Maybe some cancer physician needs to drink a beaker of bacillus licheniformis. Unfortunately it is much slower acting than H. Pylori.

[Stanislaw Chmielarz]

A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis.
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Hi!
This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
- low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
- for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
- acidification of body fluids
This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.

[Muath Abuadas]

What is the conclusion?
What is the consensus of specialists about the devices that can eliminate cancer? breast and bone?

[Jeff Sutherland]

Hi!
This is only partially correct information. A cell can change its metabolism for other reasons as well:
- low osmotic potential of the cell membrane resulting, for example, from the wrong composition of lipids that make up the membrane
- for a small supply of oxygen to the cell fluids and inside the cell
- acidification of body fluids
This change in metabolism is built into the cell's defense mechanisms, which in this way begins to ferment glucose in the absence of oxygen, instead of burning it in oxygen. In this way, by consuming about 15 times more glucose, it manages to keep it alive.
Scientists have so far been concerned about the mechanism of cancer transmission to other organs, and this is where the BL theory works.
The immune system, which should eliminate such cells in the embryo, has an almost impact on the development of cancer, but sometimes it is so busy that it is impossible to locate and process all the signals.

Agreed that there are other mechanisms that precipitate a cell into an anerobic state. I submit the only one that really matters in the case of cancer is the Rife BX BY organism infecting mitochondria and flipping the cell into an anerobic state. This sets up the cells for a carcinogen to start the random DNA mutations seen in cancer and the promoting agents to increase the rate of uncontrolled proliferation.

[Jean Mareche]

Hello,
Cancer is formed each day, due to many causes, the self irradiation by 14carbon and 40potassium (not strong but complicated) is not the least. The problem is the inability of immune system to remove them ALL. It is simple at this stage. When the cells develop and clusterize it is more and more difficult.
Best regards

[Dan Jenson]

So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

[Alan Blood]

So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.

I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)

Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)

However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.

Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.

dj

I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

The oncortherm uses an upper cone applicator of limited size and a lower waterbed functioning as a virtual second electrode. The RF irradiated area is thus limited to a defocused shape under the applicator.

There are other ways to acheive capacitive coupling e.g. using two plate electrodes.

[Fabrizio del Tin]

I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.

Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

[Alan Blood]

Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.

Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!

Hi Fab. What is the placement of patient with respect to the old diathermy output. Is the output those two angled antenna arms or is that for climbing sparks. And what about for in vitro vials.

I have some confusion because an alternative concept
Could have a spark device discharging into a gas tube as a terminal load . Didnt rife always use plasma tubes ??? Any thoughts? ??