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Old 01-13-2011   #41
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Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

The more appropriate question might be "Can it harm normal body cells?" And the answer is "absolutely!" If you can destroy a cancer cell you can certainly kill a "normal" cell too - it's all about frequency and power.

In the ideal world, the machine will only affect the cell or pathogen that the frequency is targeted at and the "norma" cell will have a different frequency than the cancer cell. However, like a radio, if you raise the power enough then you are going to get crossover (or breakthrough) and if a normal cell has a life frequency that is close to that of a cancer cell for example, then with enough power it is possible to harm the normal cell in the process of destroying the cancer cell.

The moral of the story being - use the power (especially of the GB4000) with reasonable caution.
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As I said in an earlier post - there is no doubt whatsoever that a rife machine could/can harm a healthy cell - it's a combination of frequency AND power.

If the frequency being used is at the resonant frequency of a desirable cell then it will affect that cell in exactly the same way as it would affect a "bad" cell if you are on its frequency.

When power is brought into the equation, it gets more concerning because enough power will overcome pretty much any cell in the vicinity whose resonant frequency is close. Consider that if the "power" of the cell is possibly in the microwatt/picawatt vicinity (I'm guessing) - then even one watt is going to be thousands of times higher than what it is used to.

The other consideration is the delivery method. Tube units HAVE to put out huge amounts of power because of the losses involved before the transmitted frequency gets to the desired area. Radio frequencies are much lower so they penetrate more deeply at considerably lower outputs, and if you are holding cylinders in your hands then you are getting the maximum delievery - appreciating that there will still be losses incurred before the radiated energy gets to the target.

For whatever it means to anyone - I am an ex military electronics person and have worked in the fields of electronic, nuclear, bacterialogical, and chemical warfare, and while I don't see auras in people - I do see "energy."

To wind up - I have been using a GB4000 with incredible success and the only thin I disagree with regarding the preprogramming is that absolutely everything is done under square wave. If you want to destroy stuff - I'm square wave all the way but if you are wanting to support stuff (eg DNA repair or the endocrine system) then I find sine wave to be a much better proposition. Just my thoughts - hope someone finds them useful.

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Very well said!
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Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

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5000 Hz has been used with long exposures times to treat Polycythemia Vera. I've spoken with two people over the years that had very good responses to 5000 Hz. Their spleens reduced in size and their RBC levels improved. Exposure times were typically around 40 minutes to an hour at 5000 Hz.



>I talked with the maker of one machine the other day. He told me that at >5000 Hz, that the machines could actually kill red blood cells...but made >the caveat that the red blood cells destroyed were probably malformed >or on their way out (about to die) anyway.
Can you tell me which frequencies were used? (I am new to this and recently diagnosed with PV) I have a machine on order. A Programmable Blaster 20 MHz from Pacific Health. Thank you. I know this is an old post, and I hope I receive a reply.
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Linda it is CERTAINLY possible for a Rife machine to harm "good" cells - frequency operates only the same frequency or frequencies close to it which is one reason NEVER to play with untested frequencies. It is interesting that people say they have had good results from 5000Hz because that frequency is not indicated in ANY of the information I have on this affliction so personally but as it is listed in MANY other treatments, it is unlikely to harm you. Typically, the tested frequencies are 13, 55.4, 121.2, 271, 694, 715.7, and 824.4. Hope that helps

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Tom are the frequencies you posted above tested for PV? Those are the ones I am specifically looking for at this time. Thanks!
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The gentleman I purchased my new Mopa 4000 (whom has been using machine for 17 years) said the machine only targets bad cells, it is not dangerous. However, after reading this page you believe it too can destroy good cells. I now am very skeptical of using this machine. Please give feedback. Thanks,
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Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

I think it helps to have some perspective on the relative risk of using frequency treatments compared to more conventional activities.

We do not really have any evidence of frequencies killing normal body cells. It may happen, but be too minor to really be of any consequence. There has never been any reports that I have seen of this happening.

I would have to say the risk of this being something to worry about is pretty small.

Lets just compare the risk to something people do every day. Driving a car. We all know someone that has been injured or killed in a car accident, yet most every day we drive someplace. We know the risk of serious injury or death comes with the territory but we proceed anyway. We have the solid 100% evidence that a certain amount of people will be injured or killed. Most of us do not stay home because of this real and known risk.

Acetaminophen is the leading cause of Liver failure. Many people take this without a second thought. A headache is enough for most people to take the liver damaging medication. It is not a theoretical risk, it has been proven, yet they sell millions of bottles every year.

You have to ask yourself if the concern about an unproven, unreported, theoretical, but potential problem is really even in the top 100 things to be concerned about? We are not as concerned about the above and known potentially deadly activities.

I would say the disease or condition being treated with the device is usually going to have many very real and known health consequences that are going to be far and away of greater concern than the cell damage speculation or even if it occurs regularly.

I would like to know the 100% answer to this also, but I haven't seen it, heard of it happening, experienced it, to my knowledge, so it is not going to keep me from using the device or keep me up at night. I may never drive my car again, but I will use the machines

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I think that in some circumstances it can. This is a tool like a knife which may be used to kill or to peel the apple.
Inadequate use of any frequency machine may harm somebody. Some people that use zappers stop of using them because of pain or Herxheimer reactions. If they are breaking rule 7/20/7/20/7 and have many pathogens to kill they are simply thoughtless ones.They know nothing about theirs immunity system's power which is usually weak when they have health problems. I have many examples of such behavior between people whom I gave my zapper. It then most often ends up in a drawer. When they are telling me that they are ill I respond them: as the zapper is in the drawer is not working for Your health.
I tried my plasma device with a woman which was endometriosis diagnosed. After 15 minutes of exposition she told me that she feels a pain at the same place as at menstruation time. So we stopped at once because I don't know what has happen to her problem either was a good reaction of body or bad reaction?
The same situation was with a man who has colonoscopy and polyp excisions. After 15 minutes he feels a pain at place where this polyp was and told me that at home after defecation had blood clots in stool. I cannot say that was after excision bleeding or after "rifing"? So I am very carefull of offering someone ill this therapy. People without serious health damages often become sleepy when my machine runs near them for a while. I think that their brain has something to repair inside the body and tries them go to sleep to have full power like at night.

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Default Re: Does a Rife machine harm normal body cells?

This seemingly simple question does not have a simple answer. I'll try to be concise. If you're using the proper equipment, no, a unit shouldn't harm normal body tissue.

Some "Herx" reactions are actually negative responses to the RF carrier waves that some units use. I have been meeting more and more people who are electro-sensitive and cannot tolerate RF, even if that RF is being used for beneficial purposes.

There are some frequencies that specifically energize the healthy tissues without killing any pathogens. Using these frequencies should make it safe and effective for anyone to be in front of a unit. However, everyone's different. I remember giving a weekend workshop and running an excellent rejuvenating frequency. Everyone loved it, except for one woman. So I turned off the unit. Next time, if this happens, I'll simply ask the workshop participant to move to the back of the room.

Some of you have mentioned blood clots and other scary reactions after rifing. This is why it's a good idea to be able to consult with a health practitioner who's familiar with frequency therapies.

Of course, I'm referring to a radiant plasma light tube unit only. Electrode devices are quite different. I describe all of this in much more detail in The Rife Handbook.

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This seemingly simple question does not have a simple answer. I'll try to be concise. If you're using the proper equipment, no, a unit shouldn't harm normal body tissue.

Some of you have mentioned blood clots and other scary reactions after rifing. This is why it's a good idea to be able to consult with a health practitioner who's familiar with frequency therapies.
Idea is very good but it's such hard to find one here...
Healthy tissues yes but what about the pathologically altered tissues?
If they are responding with some kind of pain?
For example: I am learning to play guitar and I have calluses on the fingertips of strings contact. When I use my Rife like machine I feel tingling and stinging in the fingertips for some time. The second one:
I have a degenerative joint toe finger when I use my machine I feel the same strictly at the place where this problem exists. So I think that some a slight feeling of pain at place where is a problem is normal reaction but maybe I'm wrong?

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