Do you recall the actual frequencies you ran for the psoriasis? I find this really interesting as I used to work in Chemicals whose sole purpose was to remove Silver from film to develop Radiographs for industrial purposes. Industrial Radiography. I developed psoriasis, which is also a side effect of the drug Indocid, that the doctors prescribed. Could there be a connection? I'd say Yes!
Make sure you get the right amps too. I think the energy wellness uses a nine volt six hundred miliamp with a positive connection.. find that pkug or make positive you get a corrwct replacement. Wrong vltage or amparage can mess up the machine.
12-15-2016
William Smith
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hello all,
I built one similar to the unit he used on me. generator, cb radio, linear,
antenna tuner, tube. tube is from bill in canada. It puts out approx
135 watts and changes with frequency. My system goes from 50 watts (not very
often below 100 watt output) to between 145 and 150 watts. I am working on
cataracts I don't do it every day just taking my time. My left eye was real
bad doc said I should have it removed right away and suggested docs to
remove them. every thing was blurry with left eye now can't read letters on
forum with left eye but right eye is good.Will do another treatment tomorrow
will make the forth time not sure how many treatments it will take.
HOW TO CURE CANCER FROM WHAT'S IN YOUR KITCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!
No meat, coffee or soda
few ozs fresh carrot juice 2 to 4 times a day
1000mg Vit "C" every 4 hours as body don'[t use it spits out unused c
mix these 3 items and drink morning and night one week next week just at night
4 ozs water
2 to 4 tablespoons pure maple syrup or black strap molasses
1 teaspoon baking soda
I told my friend and he told this guy who the doc's said you have maybe
3 months to live and in 2 weeks he was back to work.
his friend had breast cancer but she had it removed and did the first week
program. Doc said she was crasy for not taking the radition treatment and went back for a check up after one week and doc said she
had no cancer.
I learned this from a friend that goes to these $2,000 weekend seminars
I can't afford to go.
Was told that a Japanese doc injected baking soda into a cancerous tumor
and destroyed it instantly baut was told the above.
Don't know it it works on all cancer but its cheap and worth the try
God Bless
William Smith
12-15-2016
William Smith
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
kills cancer cells
no meat, no coffee or soda
couple ozs fresh carrot juice couple times a day
1000mg VIT "C" every 4 hours as every 3 to 4 hour body spits out what it don't use
twice a day for first week then next week just nights
2 to 4 tablespoons black strap molasses or pure maple syrup
4 ozs waterr
1 teaspoon baking soda
mix well and drink
hope this will help someone
William Smith
01-18-2017
Rafal Kichal
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hello my name is rafal i am completly new to this website ,My dad was diagnosed with cancer and had surgery i found out about rifl on www.cancertutaot.com where i found planty information how to fight cancer alternative way . Acording to this website best way to fight cancer is budwig diet protocol with suplementation of cellect suplement , and rifl frequency . Please help me to find right machine ( i want to buy gb4000) and what frequency use to kil microbes ( smal bactery which couse cancer)
Because i am foreigner and englis is not my firs langue i have problem to read whole this post and find right information
01-18-2017
Edward Ellis
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
You might find some information from this person who had a machine for sale on ebay Poland;
I don't know if I said this before but I knew a person
that can tell you what's wrong with you is by using these little vials
and was told that I had colon cancer and it was going up in the limp nodes
and this friends rife machine cured me in 7 days or 7 treatments. I was not
able to get any freq's from him as he had so many people that came to him
for treatments he tossed the note books when they were full. After the 7 days
went back to the person with the little vials and was told cancer free. Now I
have not heard of any other machine that can do the same. Some take as
long as 30 days for breast cancer, sounds like a pretty weak unit to me.
This is a list of the equipmemt in the system:
atelierrobin signal generator made in canada
cb radio uniden 510xl modified can also use a 520xl modified
linear 350 watt
antenna tuner MFJ 940E with a 4:1 balum installed
1 inch x 20 inch glass tube with bubble in middle contains 2 gases made by
Bill in canada.
astron 35A power supply
Does anyone know of a system that will get rid of cancer in less than 7 days?
I sure wish he would have kept the note book as it has freq's that he used
for a lot of different people and their problems.
AND YES A RIFE MACHINE CAN GET RID OF CANCER!!!!
I ordered the manual from Dr Bare in Albuhoqueque New Mexico
Bare-Rife / Rife-Bare Devices ~ ~ ~
Bare-Rife (also known as Rife-Bare) devices use a frequency generator, a radio, amplifier and tuner to modulate a plasma tube which is being driven by the high-voltage signal. Because of the cost of components, these systems generally cost between $2,500 and $6,000. They are a radiant device, and are not generally used where one is in contact with the plasma tube. These are our favorite machines. taken from http://www.dfe.net/links_rb.html
I am not trying to nock any ones equipment just stating facts that I know of.
hope this info will be of some help. I will answer any questions if I can.
Wm Smith
01-18-2017
William Smith
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Don't have a rife machine? this will work
If I had cancer this is what I would be doing:
no meat, coffee or soda makes system acidic
lemon and water makes us alkaline
1000 mgs vit "C" every 4 hours as body spits out what it don't use every 3 to 4 hours
couple ounces of fresh carrot juice 2 to 4 times a day
1 to 4 tablespoons pure maple syrup or black strap molasses
4 oz water
1 teaspoon baking soda *mix well and drink morning and night for one week then for one week only at night.
I received this info from a friend.* Was also told that a japanese doctor injects
baking soda into a cancerous tumor and instantly its gone.
I gave this info to a friend and he gave it to a guy that the doctors told him
he only had 3 months or less to live and in two weeks he was back to work.
01-18-2017
Rafal Kichal
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
we use this protocol , we use baking soda witamin c intraveing injection 25g , 1g liposomal witamin c also , but we want to use rifle protocol also as is most recomended together with budwig diet . I am going to buy gb4000 as is most recomended but i dont know what frequensy to use to kil microbes , if no one know let me know where to looking for
01-18-2017
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Czesc Rafal!
Look for CAFL list at the internet there are many frequency sets for many cancer types and You may use any other device in addiction to software generator for example FreqGen (dos and win 95), FreX16 or Spooky. For them You ought to have a PC with a sound card.
Budwig diet works for shure.
01-19-2017
Rafal Kichal
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
i am wary cofuse becouse cancerturor recomend only gb4000 wich frequensy is most close to orgina royal rifle and have 20mhz and spooky is only 3mhz . Reagarding the frequency list there is so many nr how to set up gb machine for such frequensy ?
20mhz shall is use the maximum strenth when use gb4000 ot this power is no esensial
01-19-2017
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I will say briefly; read letters in this forum but know that this is not the only knowledge for today. Around the work of Rife arisen many legends of so-called "urban legends" and several facts are certain: the original Rife machine healed cancer and other diseases but such machines no longer exist. Each of the creators of their product praises like a fox tail. The worst, of involuntary R.R.Rife some use of his name in the name of their product, which have nothing to do with the Rife machine. Frequency for BX, then how can you claim is 1604kHz. I built an analog generator from 10kHz to 30MHz and recently purchased chinese DDS module from 1Hz to 50MHz (sine wave) and to the 10MHz (square wave). Remember also that not for every case (patient) can be used a frequency method.
Continued discussion in the relevant thematic threads or write private.
01-19-2017
Edward Ellis
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafal Kichal
i am wary cofuse becouse cancerturor recomend only gb4000 wich frequensy is most close to orgina royal rifle and have 20mhz and spooky is only 3mhz . Reagarding the frequency list there is so many nr how to set up gb machine for such frequensy ?
20mhz shall is use the maximum strenth when use gb4000 ot this power is no esensial
As I remember the 3 MHz Spookey2 generator limit is theoretically extended by the software above that 3MHz limit. In fact the Forum leaders indicated it was not worth paying extra for the 20MHz generator because software expanded the limit. I no longer have access to that forum so I cannot verify that.
Ed
01-19-2017
William Smith
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Rafal Kicha if you want a real machine that will work contact
Dr James Bare in Albuqueque New Mexico he was selling manuels
so you could build your own or buy one that he has made. He was
able to work with Dr Rife. Some info for you and you have a phone
number so you can call him.
I don't see why you would need 8 different freq's at one when one does the job. altierrobin in canada makes a generator http://atelierrobin.net/index.php?op...id=471&lang=en
I like my system that I put together from the manuel that I ordered from Dr James Bare.
01-19-2017
Rafal Kichal
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
stanislaw are you polish ? cancerturor recomend gb4000 is most close to rifle machine , i am preaty sure it can cure many diesaes including cancer but need to know right frequensys. I have no time to do research about other generator becouse cancer dosnt wait . Pleanty people are happy with gb4000 becouse is strong do the job and easy to oparate
i dont know what i need for 8 frequency in one time i have no absolylty no idea how it works , but 20mhz is powed i belive something like horse powed in car , if i am wrong please explain me something step by step
01-19-2017
William Smith
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Rafal Kichal did you check out the info I listed?
how many watts does the gb4000 put out?
my units output is between 125 and 175 watts human can only take 250 watts
01-20-2017
Rafal Kichal
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
wiliam yes i have seen this links regarding books to buy , i cant find any contact beside why shall i build my own , and how i expect to work better if gb comapny seems they know much more how to build righ machine . You ask how many wats gb4000have , please check by yourself , i am here to hind an answer not to get you answer . One more time i will say cancerturor recomend it this machine as the closer one ro royal rifle if they are wrong tell me why
02-10-2018
Dwayne Crouse
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Jim, I want to thank you for your work and detailed information presented on your 4/2/2006 note on "Can a Rife machine cure cancer?"
I have been treating my wife with metastasized ovarian carcinosarcoma stage iv for 7 weeks with the GB4000 w/M.O.P.A. and am discouraged that there has not been more results. Our Oncologist tells us there are no blood markers that are reliable for this and the tumors do not appear to be regressing.
I like the control you seem to have over your protocol via software and am looking at the Spooky2 software & interfaces. The volunteers supporting the software seem to be dedicated for non-monetary gains. Trying to be brief here (we are doing all the things we know to do with diet, detoxing, supplements) but am open to any solid information you or others reading this can point us to. Folks like yourself that tirelessly try to help others are to be commended.
Dwayne Crouse
Wake Forest
02-10-2018
Russell Shipp
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne Crouse
Jim, I want to thank you for your work and detailed information presented on your 4/2/2006 note on "Can a Rife machine cure cancer?"
I have been treating my wife with metastasized ovarian carcinosarcoma stage iv for 7 weeks with the GB4000 w/M.O.P.A. and am discouraged that there has not been more results. Our Oncologist tells us there are no blood markers that are reliable for this and the tumors do not appear to be regressing.
I like the control you seem to have over your protocol via software and am looking at the Spooky2 software & interfaces. The volunteers supporting the software seem to be dedicated for non-monetary gains. Trying to be brief here (we are doing all the things we know to do with diet, detoxing, supplements) but am open to any solid information you or others reading this can point us to. Folks like yourself that tirelessly try to help others are to be commended.
Dwayne Crouse
Wake Forest
Honestly ... are we still doing this scam? If we could cure diseases by sending hair and toe nail clippings to south Africa we would not need to drag our machines to clients homes or invite them into our homes and clinics. The spooky stuff is a scam by con artists STOP IT. Its time to stop. Spooky BS has nothing to do with Rife therapy. You wanna post spooky shit start your own spooky forum and keep your scams limited to there. They have no place here.
02-11-2018
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
You can think how you want and what you want but the remote frequency interaction works. I built my own generator set and a remote transmitter and carried out the trials on the nails of several people with health problems. It is just as effective in a longer period of time as the treatment with contact electrodes and the effectiveness depends mainly on whether the correct frequency was used. Rife did not know this phenomenon and therefore he did not use it, and besides, there was a completely different state of knowledge and technique, and I personally do not intend to go back to historical times but use currently available knowledge and technology. I don't think that this technology can cure all the diseases alone.
02-12-2018
Russell Shipp
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz
You can think how you want and what you want but the remote frequency interaction works. I built my own generator set and a remote transmitter and carried out the trials on the nails of several people with health problems. It is just as effective in a longer period of time as the treatment with contact electrodes and the effectiveness depends mainly on whether the correct frequency was used. Rife did not know this phenomenon and therefore he did not use it, and besides, there was a completely different state of knowledge and technique, and I personally do not intend to go back to historical times but use currently available knowledge and technology. I don't think that this technology can cure all the diseases alone.
Oh I dont think anything I know its a hoax. A hoax being perpetrated to discredit and devalue legitimate Rife Therapy. I mean if what was said about remote therapy was true youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone. Remote healing is quackery.
02-12-2018
Alan Faulkner
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell Shipp
Oh I dont think anything I know its a hoax. A hoax being perpetrated to discredit and devalue legitimate Rife Therapy. I mean if what was said about remote therapy was true youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone. Remote healing is quackery.
Russell,
I am hesitant to wade into opinions... but...
I have used the three versions of Rife therapy, plasma - (Resonant Light - 'Perl'), Contact ('Rife Medic') and what has acquired the title 'Quantum entanglement'.
The 'Perl' was effective, fast and comfortable and relatively expensive. If I had a serious issue, I would get or rent one. By the time I got my first 'Rife Medic', contact was passe, so I used it as a QE device and have had many excellent results. Prostate (normalization), Liver (Alanine transaminase normalized), arthritis (gone), hypothyroid (normalized), canker sores (eliminated), and a number of other successes. Lots of misses also.
In my experience, all therapies whether allopathic, or what is referred to as alternative are effective or ineffective mainly due to the healer's talent and care. In the 2000 year old Ayurvedic texts, they say the same thing.
The Caraka Samhita (2000 year old medical texts) list the qualities necessary to affect a healing as ;
Good Doctor,
Good Nurse,
Good Patient
Appropriate and quality tools, preparations, herbs and diet.
The remark "youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone", is an opinion based on not following the method. The DNA samples required to get results have to be specific and solid, i.e. finger or toe nails. Blood, urine, snot, semen, tears, hair, saliva, etc. do not work.
Referring to anything as quackery is pretty strong and in my world requires strong proof. Please do present yours.
02-18-2018
Rajiv Deo
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
"sleeping on a complete metal-free bed"
What about sleeping on earthed/grounded metallic bed?
04-24-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I'll share some technical info and lab research from my group.
We have to distinguish among 3 types of machines:
1. Original (pre-Hoyland) machines
2. Post-Hoyland machines, clones and replicas
3. Other machines
Machines type #1 on cancer:
- they can help with some specific type of cancers (mostly lung/breast related), not all
- they work very well in vitro, and to a certain extent in vivo on exposed areas (if they are not exposed, it has to be done through surgery)
- they work little to nothing with inner cancers
Mechanisms involved:
- cancer is sensitive to temperature. Thermal shock contributes to cell apoptosis
- EM shock by high voltage spikes. This cleans up the environment by mechanical induction (shaking, rotation, etc.) and can disturb the operation of cancerous cells
- it alters proteins and DNA in cancerous cells (as well in normal cells); when cancerous cells, which have an already altered DNA, become too compromised and cannot photoreactivate, apoptosis is triggered. Normal cells can recover, but can also go mad. Statistically, with the right doses, they recover
Targeted chemical constituents: Benzene, Anthracene (Benz(a)anthracene-7.12-dione), Naphthalene, and Styrene to clear up the environment (mostly tobacco-related). O-O bonds in the cell, which involves mitochondria and the breathing process of the cell (cancer is oxygen hungry; when you target the source it feeds from, the cell dies)
Machines type #2 on cancer:
None of those machines is currently properly tuned up according to original machines. Therefore, without clear electrical and lamp parameters, it is not possible to predict how well they will operate.
In general, they should have no effect on cancer, but there are certain variants that might. For example, a Rife/Bare system could be made to work against cancer with some modifications (using multiple frequencies at the same time, choosing the proper lamp, etc.). Same with a Bedini RPX Sideband Generator, if it is properly amplified and fed to a proper lamp.
The thing is more complex, but I think this guideline can be helpful. Many variants and machine #2 seem to help with long exposure times. But right for that reason, as they cannot achieve a timely killoff, they only display initial good results. Then, the cancer cells adapt and become more virulent than before, leading to a quick death. Thus, you can talk about an improved quality of life for a time, but not about healing. However, this is not the original Rife principle.
04-24-2018
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Your message has a serious errors;
"it alters proteins and DNA in cancerous cells (as well in normal cells); when cancerous cells, which have an already altered DNA,"
Cancer cells have not an altered DNA. If they have, an immune system have to kill them.
"O-O bonds in the cell, which involves mitochondria and the breathing process of the cell (cancer is oxygen hungry; when you target the source it feeds from, the cell dies)"
Cancer cells are not an oxygen hungry because they do not burn glucose in oxygen but in the lack of oxygen they carry out glucose fermentations to achieve an energy.
There is a fundamental knowledge about cancer cells vs healthy cells which You don't have.
04-24-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Maybe you have different sources and the only error is your thread spamming and agenda.
My point is DNA alteration, for which there is plenty of studies.
If the immune system would intervene every time DNA is altered, many viruses would not exist (those that alter DNA), which is not true.
Concerning the role of mitochondria, there are different studies. Some say that che cancerous cell is always in starving mode because of the increased need for oxygen and that mitochondria become hyperactive. There are many threads of study.
And it is common knowledge that cancer cells have an altered, crazy DNA.
I invite you not to discredit the work of others and spam my posts. I studied pharmacy by the way. I ask politely that you remove your personal attacks torward me and cease with this attitude. If you don't like or don't understand what I contribute to this forum, nobody forces you to be rude or intolerant. I will also remove these lines as we find again reciprocal respect, as this forum deserves.
04-24-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
If somebody is curious about the need for oxygen of cancerous cells, here is a study:
Studies that just say the opposite can be found. For example, it was proposed to kill cancer cells with an excess of oxygen.
When two diverging solutions are both true, it just shows that cancer is very sensitive to preserve its artificial environment. Any change can affect it. The issue is how to induce reliably those changes.
04-25-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Stanislaw Chmielarz, let's see who this guy is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz
You can think how you want and what you want but the remote frequency interaction works. I built my own generator set and a remote transmitter and carried out the trials on the nails of several people with health problems. It is just as effective in a longer period of time as the treatment with contact electrodes and the effectiveness depends mainly on whether the correct frequency was used. Rife did not know this phenomenon and therefore he did not use it, and besides, there was a completely different state of knowledge and technique, and I personally do not intend to go back to historical times but use currently available knowledge and technology. I don't think that this technology can cure all the diseases alone.
Spamming threads and bashing other people. He even says he does not follow Rife research because Rife is not the answer to all the diseases. That's because he ONLY has the absolute truth, made his own perfect system and uses people as guinea pigs with no clue of scientific protocols.
"Nails of people with health problems". Oh... nails are a health problem. Which of Rife's evaluated microorganisms is causing problems in nails? Anthrax? Spinal Meningitis? Typhoid fever? He does not even know, because he does not mention it. But his bogus machine (show me your certifications and real lab tests) can cure all.
Certainly, with "the correct [magical] frequency" that he is the only one to have. He will surely sell those frequencies abusing the medical profession and doing unproven (and dangerous) claims.
I must especially praise him for using people as guinea pigs. He really deserves a prize: To see the sky behind bars for the rest of his life. But he knows it all, because even "Rife did not know this phenomenon". I need to bow to his intelligence.
So, he comes to this forum to promote his machines and frequencies, bashing all other people who do not think like him or can be a danger to his business. He has no clue of lab protocols, biology, but he is ready to discredit scientists and anybody who gets in his way. Oh.... a business of bogus and dangerous machines. Who wants to be the next guinea pig?
Now I am curious who will join the chorus to defend their bogus machines and bow in front of Stanislaw. I'm ready to examine their threads and help people understand any unscientific claim I can find.
04-26-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz
Your message has a serious errors;
"it alters proteins and DNA in cancerous cells (as well in normal cells); when cancerous cells, which have an already altered DNA,"
Cancer cells have not an altered DNA. If they have, an immune system have to kill them.
Another evidence that Stanislaw talks nonsense. It is known since the 50's that cancer is caused by DNA mutations.
Stop ridiculing science and bashing people. You are only mocking yourself and your ignorance.
04-27-2018
Peter Walker
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Fabrizio del Tin and Stanislaw Chmielarz, let me remind you both that this forum is open for the respectful exchange of ideas. It is not permitted to make any personal attacks on this forum.
You can argue the merits of ideas, methods and devices, but not use derogatory talking points against your opponent. Those that persist in such behaviour can be removed from the forum.
One has to allow for progress and there are plenty of modern day units with proven track records.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.
Hippocrates "He who heals is right", is more relevant than ever,
04-27-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Peter, thanks for intervening. I asked Stanislaw politely to remove his personal attacks and find again reciprocal respect (above in this thread), but he didn't do. Just short ago you already warned him and a group of posters and peace seemed to be restablished, except for Stanislaw, who persists.
It is not possible to have somebody chasing your threads and discredit you all the time in anything you say - and also with completely wrong claims. He does not put it in the tone of information sharing, but he is just bashing people. I invited him, if he does not like what I say or has something against me, just to avoid me, but it didn't work.
I need to point out that this affects my name and image. I always avoided confrontation, but what stays in this forum after personal attacks are those same personal attacks that do not get deleted.
I decided to comment on Stanislaw's threads to show that others can be rude too - when it is enough, it is enough. But I have no interest in continuing a confrontation. So, for me it's over now. But I don't think it's over for Stanislaw, as it keeps happening. I feel limited every time I want to do a post here, because I feel haunted, so one can not even feel free to say/share something.
I think there should be a way to remove offending content.
Concerning the other devices, maybe I have to change the naming to "devices that do not follow the original Rife protocols, but are improperly called Rife's". I don't deal with those, so I didn't expand on that. I didn't mean to include all frequency devices in that definition. I followed my path to modernization too and I think there is plenty of space for improvement of Rife's systems.
04-28-2018
Peter Walker
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabrizio del Tin
Peter, thanks for intervening. I asked Stanislaw politely to remove his personal attacks and find again reciprocal respect (above in this thread), but he didn't do. Just short ago you already warned him and a group of posters and peace seemed to be restablished, except for Stanislaw, who persists.
It is not possible to have somebody chasing your threads and discredit you all the time in anything you say - and also with completely wrong claims. He does not put it in the tone of information sharing, but he is just bashing people. I invited him, if he does not like what I say or has something against me, just to avoid me, but it didn't work.
I need to point out that this affects my name and image. I always avoided confrontation, but what stays in this forum after personal attacks are those same personal attacks that do not get deleted.
I decided to comment on Stanislaw's threads to show that others can be rude too - when it is enough, it is enough. But I have no interest in continuing a confrontation. So, for me it's over now. But I don't think it's over for Stanislaw, as it keeps happening. I feel limited every time I want to do a post here, because I feel haunted, so one can not even feel free to say/share something.
I think there should be a way to remove offending content.
Fabrizio, some of your comments about him were problematic as well. Stanislaw reported a number of your posts to me and he also has a point.
The only people who use the term "Quack" are those in the pay of the pharmaceutical lobbies trying to destroy alternative medicine. We do not need such terms here, they serve only to hinder new research and development. You can say a device does not follow Rife's original protocols, but that does not mean it is wrong or bad. It is much more important to see if it works and actually helps people. If users are reporting it cured of their conditions OR as we had some time age with a certain device, that lots of people report they were worse off then before.
In Germany, where I live, there are tens of thousands of resonance therapy devices using pad electrodes and they have an excellent track record. I am currently translating the book of one of Germany's leading medical doctors using this method, into English. It is an excellent well researched book that will be released in English and Spanish later this year. The devices he uses (BW21 and BW77) are fully medCE certified, so doctors can officially use them.
04-28-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I tried to edit my post to delete the term "*****" and specify better what I was meaning, but it seems I cannot do it anymore. The button "Edit Post" disappeared. I see it for more recent posts, though.
I have nothing against pad devices. I use some too. It's just not my subject of study, so I cannot say anything about that. It's good that any direction of research is explored and I clap to your translation.
04-29-2018
Peter Walker
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I have corrected your posts for you.
04-30-2018
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Thank you, Peter
11-14-2018
Mico Snook
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Peter Barta sent you a message
12-08-2020
David Shore
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
So I've been aware of and been reading about Rife research for 20 years. However, I have 2 full time jobs while simultaneously caring for 2 disabled family members and not had the time nor science background to delve deeply into all the complexities and evaluate them myself. Is there some kind of "Rife Treatment for Dummies" manual or thread that very simply and concisely:
1. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for diagnosing diseases.
2. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for treating diseases diagnosed in the above machine.
3. Provides the simplest, most concise protocol for diagnosed diseases.
After all these years there must be some kind of simple consensus about either "the best" machine -- or at least the top 3, and why.
Thanks.
12-08-2020
Thomas Taylor
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I second this question. For those of us who don't work in this field and are looking to see if it's a device that offers any benefit. I mean at this point I'm not even asking to see a video of frequencies killing pathogens cuz I know it's never going to happen I'd settle for somebody proving to me it's something beyond just a box with lights. Just when I'm about to spend the cash I always wake up cynical wondering in this day of litigation and liability and restriction is anybody really producing a device that transmits a viable source of energy at a therapeutic level. Thank you for your input.
12-08-2020
Ali Rosener
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Peace be upon Yours All.
Strange, a 100 years ago, german health insurance company, paid also for ordenary labors treatments with the so called violet wand.
Early plasma devices, i still have some sets with many electrodes still working.
My wife uses the comb and the roll, it produces also ozon on the skin.
personally, i am 65 and don´t take any pills, except holy thistle capsules.
Good for my liver, because i had 20 years back hepatitis C.
Some people are sceptical of acupuncture, even it is since 1000th´s of years approved.
Some people try with chemo, don´t change much on livestyle, others see the things holistic and understand the complexity.
It might be rare or maybe impossible to get cancer just today and tomorrow it will be diagnosed.
It is a longer process and can have different sources, it is important, to find out wether poisons (also destructive waves) in the environment or some organism, fungi or other.
Sometimes they play all together after some time.
I only can preach it to everyone, that pure water, at least clean water, is essential to get cured.
Maybe the following post is also helpful to trust more in that type of therapy https://www.rifeforum.com/forum/thre...ll=1#post53079
Sincerely
** Ali **
12-08-2020
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Shore
So I've been aware of and been reading about Rife research for 20 years. However, I have 2 full time jobs while simultaneously caring for 2 disabled family members and not had the time nor science background to delve deeply into all the complexities and evaluate them myself. Is there some kind of "Rife Treatment for Dummies" manual or thread that very simply and concisely:
1. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for diagnosing diseases.
2. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for treating diseases diagnosed in the above machine.
3. Provides the simplest, most concise protocol for diagnosed diseases.
After all these years there must be some kind of simple consensus about either "the best" machine -- or at least the top 3, and why.
Thanks.
All currently produced Rife machines are just light boxes. Even the MOPA, a good reproduction of a Rife machine, is not tuned to the right plasma tube and will therefore achieve nothing.
Manufacturers fail to produce any evidence or scientifically acceptable proof.
The only 2 bets that may be considered, in my view, are the MOPA and Rife/Bare machines, but they need a proper tuning to increase efficiency.
Nevertheless, there is some serious research, but to my knowledge only experimental setups.
The best thing that resembles a Rife machine and works is the old violet ray. Plenty of documentation on that.
If the violet wand is refurbished and optimized, it can also dissolve cancer via electroporation and species, just google.
12-08-2020
Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabrizio del Tin
All currently produced Rife machines are just light boxes. Even the MOPA, a good reproduction of a Rife machine, is not tuned to the right plasma tube and will therefore achieve nothing.
Manufacturers fail to produce any evidence or scientifically acceptable proof.
The only 2 bets that may be considered, in my view, are the MOPA and Rife/Bare machines, but they need a proper tuning to increase efficiency.
Nevertheless, there is some serious research, but to my knowledge only experimental setups.
The best thing that resembles a Rife machine and works is the old violet ray. Plenty of documentation on that.
If the violet wand is refurbished and optimized, it can also dissolve cancer via electroporation and species, just google.
Fabrizio, I heartily disagree that "all currently produced Rife machines are just light boxes." I have observed and experienced, first-hand, plenty of cures and reversals of symptoms. I don't understand why you want to be on a list whose participants have often experienced good to excellent results with Rife Therapy, if you don't think that the CURRENT technology is valid.
I state this in many places in my new Rife Handbook, but will repeat it here: The reason that (in your words) "Manufacturers fail to produce any evidence or scientifically acceptable proof" is that at least here in the United States, manufacturers and sellers are legally prevented from making any claims. That aside, it's not quite true that ALL manufactures "fail to produce any evidence." For example, Pulsed Technologies has a research arm in Romania and has verified that its P3 Pro unit has killed Candida albicans when certain frequencies are used. (The frequencies are in Chapter 5 of my book and are available with every machine that Pulsed Technologies sells.) Whenever I do speaking engagements, I show the Candida slides from Pulsed Technologies. This company does lots of medical research, in fact, but they can't publicize it in the United States because anyone who does real medicine is muzzled. Only Big Pharma, with its poisonous chemicals, is allowed to flourish.
Many people wish to claim that only they have the true answer to cure/heal/prevent [fill in the blank with your favorite disease], but there are many ways to induce healing. I think you are doing a disservice to people--especially to newcomers who don't yet have information--when you claim that modern equipment doesn't work. This is not what I have heard from Dr. Loyd, who has given Rife Therapy to plenty of people with cancer using a variety of machines, when he constantly reports results. As for myself, I have used both the P3 Pro from Pulsed Technologies and the PERL-M from Resonant Light with good results--for me personally, for human and animal members of my family, and for friends. This includes a doctor couple who several years ago borrowed one of my machines and left it running for several days on 40,000 Hz. She had the best night's sleep she'd had in three years.
So please, Fabrizio, don't speak for me and I won't presume to speak for you about your own personal experiences. Agreed?
Nenah Sylver, PhD
12-08-2020
Ali Rosener
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Peace be upon Yours All.
Sometimes people are not sensitiv or skilled enough to tune there systems.
For some people, it will be only a fancy lamp, but some people are able to take benefits even from a Aurorasky Plasma Ball, just knowing how.
Some People own a Ferrari, it don´t mean that they know how to drive it better than a Fiat 500s.
To know which one is the best, give me the money and some more time i will find it out, if The Most High is willing.
Sincerely
** Ali **
12-08-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Shore
So I've been aware of and been reading about Rife research for 20 years. However, I have 2 full time jobs while simultaneously caring for 2 disabled family members and not had the time nor science background to delve deeply into all the complexities and evaluate them myself. Is there some kind of "Rife Treatment for Dummies" manual or thread that very simply and concisely:
1. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for diagnosing diseases.
2. Reveals the current "best" device or devices for treating diseases diagnosed in the above machine.
3. Provides the simplest, most concise protocol for diagnosed diseases.
After all these years there must be some kind of simple consensus about either "the best" machine -- or at least the top 3, and why.
Thanks.
First of all, the analysers are superfluous "fancier" gear that just does the same sweep and machine will and makes very detailed and elaborate reports about the frequencies they picked up. $100 toy going for 33,000 on the basis of more detailed reports and more things identified better, I am given to believe.
We are scanning and comparing results to physical diagnosis. Its a matter of the way the unit detects and takes some intuiting to put ones finger on it - tentatively. The analyser we have has 4 "therapy" settings which consist of buttons 1, 2, 3 & 4....with a lower/higher description in the manual, but no live readout of the frequency list or what frequencies the buttons run.
I am US and grew up in the "show me" state and I have to have, like that other fellow doing his dissertation, as many examples of what can be replicated by others to see for their selves. Doctors technically are not endorsers of what they have not "seen with their eyes and held in their hands" because most all literature now in the States is pure pay to say sales and social manipulating. One has to dissect everything to rule on every point. They had US giving out cholesterol "gimmick" like candy and then it became the trickery of "anti depressants". Covid is the most glaring example of predatory exploitation and patient meaninglessness i have lived to see? It destroyed my attachment to commoners and plebes, because the sense of "fair" and "advantage guilt" were almost as big to me as my success record and own further upping*
But I digress
The current best diagnosing device that is least theoretical is the sweep of hits the selfsame treatment units perform and looking up those for further reference. The analysers are luxuries and some are a nice looking unit, but if I took it to the hospital, its status is "fun curious gadget?" Until i see those 200 scans that were even close and physically verified.
I do believe there is a future....we are far from there and in the realm of learning and primitive machines.
It is "best" because you already paid for and own it and usually has a "run hits" feature. Best also because the others are essentially the same and its our enjoyment of screen displays and reading details that chooses?
I want to lay the frex16 scan results, this analyser results and one of these $30,000 units....I need to see and compare what the difference and its value for the gap of 29,899? Then i can say something more than "seems like" and "what's the puzzler is.."
The best is not easy to define.
Power and bulbs? Spectrotek, bill's lovely art bulbs and frex16 or other, Dr Bare's table top unit... I have never had or seen in person the GB/MOPA but it had a good reputation
Utility and accessories? BCX Ultra is like it was made for drs directly treating bodies one after the other.
User friendly? Aliixor, spectrotek - looks are not much and dang if they don't make them all look slick :)
Best pre sets and protocols - Hymbas, BCX ultra deluxe so far? I pick it up and go "Hmm HMMM!" like precious pup with a biscuit. There was one on ebay half price.
People with shorter budgets see the spectrotek/bill's/frex16 - much more power than the $100 generators from that one bunch.
Sorry for these ramblings. I see as i go that all "do something" it is the person and the power/application they desire. I've got BCX and buying spectro....rest is the particulars of aesthetic, portability & etc?
The other "user friendly with all the gadgets I will not endorse even though we have a pile of it here and utilize it* - the company is rapacious, awkward when spoken to by adult and my main concern has always been accuracy. I have heard more than one "bit of a time getting frequencies accurate".....i lack trust there altogether of the whole hippie fronted communist source. I dislike being spoken to as if i was 10 and learning obedience too and there is a HUGE gap in business or partnering with any of that lot, by their clumsy greed and attempts to rake you good with that particular aspect of their "authoritarianism" and you "obey!"
I just very clearly told them what terms were acceptable and call me back when they get that.
3 well spaced call backs with another volley....stubborn and not paying them that for $5 of radio shack in a groovy plastic case? Can keep answering calls "oh thank you very much!" but already pursuing an American made line of the same thing? Not rife...spa equipment
12-08-2020
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hi Nenah, I never speak for you, I just speak from my experience.
Usually, I use a very precise wording. Scientifically acceptable does not mean showing a slide that a supposed frequency killed a pathogen, or that one "feels" better.
You know the placebo effect and microbes have a very short lifespan anyways. So, was it really the frequency or something else? Where are the results of the control? How do we know that it was exactly that frequency and another frequency does not work? What is the mechanism? What is the success rate demonstrated with a blind study? Is it replicable?
I truly don't believe much in the conspiration theories. Just do the things how they should be done and they will be accepted.
I'm not aware of papers on cold plasma or electroporation that are forbidden, hidden or rejected in the U.S. Indeed, there are many new patents on Rife related technology.
I kindly disagree that am doing a disservice to people, as pointing out a lack of scientific evidence should bring up those questions that are for the benefit of all.
I don't have a conflict of interest either, as currently I just do pure research. I sell no books, no machines. If you claim that someone is doing a disservice, you must see your conflict of interest first.
So, we will just live with different opinions. I have found valid people in this forum with whom I share some research and opinions. Others have different ideas.
I had the idea, some day, to develop a website where everyone could contribute his lab tests, healing protocols, results. Forms and questions should be developed so that it may have scientific value. As you understand, "I feel good" or it heals my "nail, insomnia, itch, pointy nose, fill in the blank", which unfortunately seems to be the preferred way of most manufacturers, can actually harm people.
Research must follow protocols, people are not Guinea pigs. So, that's why I just do research and shared a lot of results on this forum freely. I see so many people claiming such unbelievable results and showing none. Or showing nothing that is scientifically acceptable, as I said.
Finally, just to point out a subtlety. Research needs a lab. That a doctor uses Rife therapy, it does not contribute much to research, as he does not have the facilities to do it. Of course, it can give an indication for further investigation, but that's it. Then, there are those who are satisfied, and those who want to understand more. My opinion, of course.
12-08-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
lord anybody near alamogordo, just come play with them all a bit and get a feel for the differences and all would be clear. I am working on a showroom for drs now that the FDA doesn' t smash us for it. I can put together turn-key setups for them by specialty and speak the language in our terms? Companies are a little slow to pick up on that....but less partners, more for me is ok too?
It is always a bit of a struggle explaining well and the question is frequent here
12-08-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Taylor
I second this question. For those of us who don't work in this field and are looking to see if it's a device that offers any benefit. I mean at this point I'm not even asking to see a video of frequencies killing pathogens cuz I know it's never going to happen I'd settle for somebody proving to me it's something beyond just a box with lights. Just when I'm about to spend the cash I always wake up cynical wondering in this day of litigation and liability and restriction is anybody really producing a device that transmits a viable source of energy at a therapeutic level. Thank you for your input.
Oh I dont think anything I know its a hoax. A hoax being perpetrated to discredit and devalue legitimate Rife Therapy. I mean if what was said about remote therapy was true youd be hitting millions of people based on skin cells in dust particles alone. Remote healing is quackery.
Well that's fairly depressing. So even a Bare can't do the job unless it's hacked properly? That's how far we've come?
12-08-2020
Yuriy Vladimirovich
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
HI.
In my opinion, yes, Rife's machine can beat cancer.
There can be no protocol, since cancer is a strictly individual disease. If you take two identical people with the same diagnosis, then the disease in each will proceed differently. This depends on what kind of symbiosis of pathogenic microbes caused the disease and what kind of immunity and state of the body a person has at the moment. A tumor is a symbiosis (cohabitation) of different microbes together.
Cancer is a parasitic disease. And this was proven at the beginning and middle of the last century. As Professor M.M. Nevyadomsky, oncology is just a branch of parasitology!
For successful treatment, a complete diagnosis of the body is needed for pathogenic microflora. And this is the main problem. For example, the SV40-virus cannot be diagnosed either in Ukraine or in Russia. And it (SV40) is found in many tumors and leukemia and lymphoma.
The same problem with pathogenic fungi. I have about 30 species on my list. And there is no way to diagnose them all.
In my opinion, in terms of technical characteristics, I would choose GB-4000 and MOPA + CP-4 would not be superfluous either.
This is not an advertisement - this is just my opinion!
After diagnostics, we first destroy parasites and protozoa, then fungi, bacteria and viruses. Also daily detoxification and a lot of other support programs.
That's the whole protocol.
12-09-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I can not honestly say? The reason is because i use plasma/rife in conjunction with 12-15 other cancer or infection agents and never tried to completely discern.
Like the Italian fellow said, we talk great and have a use for each others notes - but my goal is the patient (making me look good) and i imagine for someone trying to write down that music, it would be impossible. Just like trying to keep a patient alive in a research model would be.
Plasma/rife i love for life....but I throw every lightning bolt and cascade of weaponry i have that applies to that case.
12-09-2020
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
I have observed and experienced, first-hand, plenty of cures and reversals of symptoms.
....
Pulsed Technologies has a research arm in Romania and has verified that its P3 Pro unit has killed Candida albicans when certain frequencies are used. Whenever I do speaking engagements, I show the Candida slides from Pulsed Technologies. This company does lots of medical research, in fact, but they can't publicize it in the United States ...
Nenah Sylver, PhD
With all due respect, in 25 years I saw no collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature. I got the impression the old Baytah project fizzled out, and the uninformed gossip I heard was some devices had good reports on Lyme, but a dud for cancer.
If somebody wants to share data with me to contradict that sceptical gossip, don't be shy !!!!!
Your paragraphs on Candida sound like a breakthrough. The gossip I heard was we had nothing but failure. There are plenty of countries outside USA where the Candida work could be investigated in replication experiments. Sometimes outsider labs don't do the protocols correctly. So by all means get your colleagues to instruct the correct methods by video or on zoom.
A sceptic here might say it's all about selling yet another expensive book or device and that's all it's about. So prove them wrong !!!!! Get it into Nature journal or Lancet or any journal at all.
If your collabators just fried these bugs using a wire inserted into the sample, I won't be impressed with that unless a nearby frequency is demonstrated to fail. Putting a manufacturer in charge of an investigation is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house, hence the proposal to outsource that work.
How to find a collaborating lab willing to pay their own costs ??? Put up a project description on researchgate site. But the manufacturer must be willing to loan or donate the frequency device.
12-09-2020
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl Buchanan
I can not honestly say? The reason is because i use plasma/rife in conjunction with 12-15 other cancer or infection agents and never tried to completely discern.
Like the Italian fellow said, we talk great and have a use for each others notes - but my goal is the patient (making me look good) and i imagine for someone trying to write down that music, it would be impossible. Just like trying to keep a patient alive in a research model would be.
Plasma/rife i love for life....but I throw every lightning bolt and cascade of weaponry i have that applies to that case.
Life is a terminal illness with 100% mortality rate. The prognosis for many cancers is so poor, it would not matter if cured patients had 20 different therapies, provided you also show all the data for your dead patients too. 80 % mortality is twice as good as 90% mortality.
Meta analysis was applied to the old data of Holt here in Australia on microwave hyperthermia. It can be done on any good collation. I understand chiropractors and casual therapists are not in a position to do that alone. Many rife practicioners express fear and loathing of GP doctors. But if professionals sign off on the standard 2 year and 5 year survival data, all the meta analysis needs to do is divide that into age and sex cohorts and bingo you have a publishable result. But some of us hate and fear researchers and peer reviewed journals also. Ok not all practicioners need to participate. 2 and 5 year data in collaboration with a family doctor is a lot to ask, I get that. And it doesn't disprove Spirulina is the cure, unless you can analyse notations on the extra therapies tried.
Even with a standard proforma it really is too much to ask in this Tower of Babel forum. Actually medicos had no data 200 years ago but they did have grapevine gossip. Lancet journal was full of anecdotals on individual cases. If some therapy worked well, the efficacy was obvious. But if it's a subtle improvement of survival score, you need modern statistical methods to prove your claim.
Btw this was done with oncotherm in Germany. But it was run by pros thus easy peasy.
12-09-2020
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Shore
Well that's fairly depressing. So even a Bare can't do the job unless it's hacked properly? That's how far we've come?
Bare has a line of research with Antony Holland and can prove things to work, but exact frequencies and modalities are not published, as obviously research costs.
Does it work like original Rife machines? No. Does it have 100% success rate? No. Not even 90%. It has enough that it may show interest though. It's just in the research phase.
What happens with Rife machines is that devices with big claims are manufactured before a research is completed. Science requires just the opposite. Otherwise, you do not really knowing what you are doing.
Bursting a paramecium in vitro is cool. But again, where is the blind study, the control, the verification against other frequency?
For example, it is my opinion that all frequencies would work same. Can someone prove that's not the case?
12-09-2020
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hi!
We have two supporters of conducting certification research for frequency machines. I would like to read what standards will these researchers refer to and what test procedures during the research and evaluation of results? I happened to prepare the device for testing before obtaining approval and a patent, but I knew exactly what scope of measurements would be performed and under what conditions. Please provide me with such standards for testing the effectiveness of cancer treatment when there are so many factors involved, which the previous speaker (Yuriy) wrote about, such as the physical condition of the patient, the mental condition of the patient and how it will affect the test results. Of course, you can choose for example lung cancer patients, only each case will be different for the reasons described above and the type / type of cancer. I propose generic tests, such as the in vitro test performed by Doug Coil's creator on a Petri dish for Lyme spirochete, which test and its method of execution can be described in detail. Unfortunately, this test, due to its pleomorphic properties of a spirochette, does not guarantee complete recovery after the first in vivo treatment. So I do not see any possibility to reliably test the frequency device in the treatment of cancer. When it comes to single parasites, pathogens, it can be done in vitro, which unfortunately does not translate into in vivo results for many reasons. The human body and the organisms of laboratory animals is not an airplane and a miniature airplane tested in the aerodynamic channel and there is no exact translation of the results of such tests.
As I wrote earlier, it is possible to perform in vivo tests with the use of computerized Vega-test equipment, only if it is reliable can only confirm the results of therapy with a given device and the frequency of emission. As it results from my information from the therapist working, this method with the emission made by contact electrodes and induction loops and the patient (my daughter-in-law), the therapy is effective, but not immediate.
12-09-2020
Ali Rosener
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Peace be upon Yours All.
I suffered from fibromyalgia, this was diagnosed in a university hospital.
My condition was so bad, that i needed two hours every morning to get my bones moved.
It was not possible for me to open a bag or a bottle. No power and too much pain in the muscles.
I could walk 50 m distance, i had to sit down. My live started to dimmish.
I prayd to The Most High: "Please take away this evil what i feel and what i see.
The feedback was: "get a microscope and look into your blood".
I learned to see and how to act with frequency and plasma therapy.
Now i am free of fibromyalgia.
We say in germany: "wer heilt hat recht" (who cures is right).
I don´t have anything to sell.
Science, HA HA HA, In the DSM5 Dictionary for mental sickness is written, that people believe in The Most High or in the hereafter are mental ill.
Some are so ignorant and arrogant, they believe in such dictionary.
This type of corrupted science, sorry, i give a big pile of shit on it.
I showed in this Forum videos with organism, looking like red blood cells and able to throw threads like caterpillar.
Even doctors i showed, but the only reaction is "interesting".
This type of organism can cause big damage to the body, when they agglutinate, under stress.
Why are people so ignorant and don´t understand that the invivo observation with the microscope is essential.
How could mankind become so stupid and blind, just trusting labs? Is it scientific to send a sample only to one lab? sorry i would not trust.
Short time ago, we sendet a stool sample into a lab.
The consistence was like a stone.
When we got the results, there was written about the consistence of the sample was soft.
Signed by a doctor.
This was not the first time i came across such curiosity.
You can´t trust!!!! in that kind of science. Sorry.
Here the video, tell me what organism, my opinion, a adult plasmodium.
The Video is in 1080p please change the settings
Sincerely
** Ali **
12-09-2020
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Ali, you might feel that a frequency cured you, but you cannot be certain. Science is your friend to help you know if it was really due to the frequency.
I will enumerate just a few points that make your account doubtful.
1. Illnesses have their due course. Maybe you healed because it was time to heal and not because of the frequency. Where is the control subject to figure this out? That is more people with similar illness, some untreated, some treated in different ways, etc.
2. The fact that you are so hyped about Rife is already a strong placebo effect that may influence outcome. We need subjects that are not biased to get data that are certain.
3. Your healing conclusion is already flawed, as you did not just use a frequency to heal. You also used prayer. We know that prayer is a powerful healing tool that can surpass medicine. Was it a frequency or prayer? What else did you do or take that could influence the outcome?
Unless we have pure and verified data, such accounts contribute nothing, unfortunately. We need a protocol so that all can follow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Rosener
19
Peace be upon Yours All.
I suffered from fibromyalgia, this was diagnosed in a university hospital.
My condition was so bad, that i needed two hours every morning to get my bones moved.
It was not possible for me to open a bag or a bottle. No power and too much pain in the muscles.
I could walk 50 m distance, i had to sit down. My live started to dimmish.
I prayd to The Most High: "Please take away this evil what i feel and what i see.
The feedback was: "get a microscope and look into your blood".
I learned to see and how to act with frequency and plasma therapy.
Now i am free of fibromyalgia.
We say in germany: "wer heilt hat recht" (who cures is right).
I don´t have anything to sell.
Science, HA HA HA, In the DSM5 Dictionary for mental sickness is written, that people believe in The Most High or in the hereafter are mental ill.
Some are so ignorant and arrogant, they believe in such dictionary.
This type of corrupted science, sorry, i give a big pile of shit on it.
I showed in this Forum videos with organism, looking like red blood cells and able to throw threads like caterpillar.
Even doctors i showed, but the only reaction is "interesting".
This type of organism can cause big damage to the body, when they agglutinate, under stress.
Why are people so ignorant and don´t understand that the invivo observation with the microscope is essential.
How could mankind become so stupid and blind, just trusting labs? Is it scientific to send a sample only to one lab? sorry i would not trust.
Short time ago, we sendet a stool sample into a lab.
The consistence was like a stone.
When we got the results, there was written about the consistence of the sample was soft.
Signed by a doctor.
This was not the first time i came across such curiosity.
You can´t trust!!!! in that kind of science. Sorry.
Here the video, tell me what organism, my opinion, a adult plasmodium.
The Video is in 1080p please change the settings
Sincerely
** Ali **
12-09-2020
Ali Rosener
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Hi Fabrizio, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
You can´t imagine how many bloodsamples i have examined, how many hours i sat on the microscope.
I know how to make the organism visible, chase them out of there hiding.
Of course i did not work thru like a egoshooter.
No, i learned, that frequency therapy can weaken pathogens and immune modulate the system.
What do You think why this leucos so behind that i call the plasmodium in that video?
Only because they got informed and instructed.
My goal is not to kill, but to clean and regenerate. Everything in the Universe matters, also the so called pathogen.
This fields do exactly what i whant. Not from today to tomorrow but some days later.
My prayer and its feedback, was the inspiration to look into my own blood. With other words, to take a much deeper look inside.
Not to look into the body liquids of a patient is somehow ignorant.
The modern doctors are blind, they don´t no anymore, just take labs away. Nowadays, You will not find much doctors anymore, taking a look into the eyes or tongue, they don´t know to read the skin and the nails, many of them don´t know.
So what, science is just a other kind of religion, having many believers and followers.
They are good in prophecy, that the cancer rate will encrease till 2025, even how much %, so what.
UN Agenda 2030 how it shall come together?
Sincerely
** Ali **
12-09-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
"Btw this was done with oncotherm in Germany. But it was run by pros thus easy peasy."
Well....easy peasey.....it is a little nervy driving that train? "Controlled cooking" them is a nimble affair for what can happen. That one made me laugh. I got their brain in my hands waiting for the train to derail on me and trying to watch 5 gauges at once in a self-generated trance of focused intent. Haha. But? I do make it "look" easy peasey?
For me it is....in a nascar race kind of way...but that tickled me
12-09-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
"The prognosis for many cancers is so poor, it would not matter if cured patients had 20 different therapies, provided you also show all the data for your dead patients too. 80 % mortality is twice as good as 90% mortality."
Not in our country?
The "and you get 5 years!" gaffe is atrocious. That is because they destroyed them with rad and chemo and never clean em up.....SCAM and insult too.
I tell them there is no limit known and check often. If they have any trouble, they come back.
But ALL of what you present is "pubmed" = sh*t con job
None of that is even relevant in private care, because it is just narrative to support an industry - and clearly? A population management method that competes with ours.
I do not have a lot of dead patients? I have always enjoyed high success rates and some? I do not know? If they do not respond rapidly to me, i do not "treat them unto death" I talk to them about conventional measures, the "5 years!" and that i will make sure and take the chemo and rad back out.....boom! 20 years?
So do not even try to pass off canadian chicken chucking as reliable medical information to me and think I am a poor hopeful potato. Most all that is not true at all here....unless they go to "free care" and what did they expect?
12-09-2020
Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.
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Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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With all due respect, in 25 years I saw no collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature. I got the impression the old Baytah project fizzled out, and the uninformed gossip I heard was some devices had good reports on Lyme, but a dud for cancer.
If somebody wants to share data with me to contradict that sceptical gossip, don't be shy !!!!!
Your paragraphs on Candida sound like a breakthrough. The gossip I heard was we had nothing but failure. There are plenty of countries outside USA where the Candida work could be investigated in replication experiments. Sometimes outsider labs don't do the protocols correctly. So by all means get your colleagues to instruct the correct methods by video or on zoom.
A sceptic here might say it's all about selling yet another expensive book or device and that's all it's about. So prove them wrong !!!!! Get it into Nature journal or Lancet or any journal at all.
If your collabators just fried these bugs using a wire inserted into the sample, I won't be impressed with that unless a nearby frequency is demonstrated to fail. Putting a manufacturer in charge of an investigation is like putting a fox in charge of the hen house, hence the proposal to outsource that work.
How to find a collaborating lab willing to pay their own costs ??? Put up a project description on researchgate site. But the manufacturer must be willing to loan or donate the frequency device.
Alan,
I don't have the time to pursue this in the exact manner that it appears you are asking for. However, I suggest you contact the owners of the various equipment companies and ask them if they have done research, where, and by whom, etc. Explain why you want such research and what you plan to do with it.
Please keep in mind that your demand for a "collation of clinical data for frequency devices online or in published literature" from the manufacturers themselves (or sellers) is illegal in the United States. The FDA, owned by Big Pharma, has prohibited this. Any manufacturer or seller of frequency equipment can be fined and/or imprisoned for making claims and providing scientific evidence, even if those studies were done by an independent third party laboratory. Your demand for "a collation of clinical data . . . in published literature"--if by "published literature" you mean medical journals--is likewise problematic. Medical journals have been taken over by the pharmaceutical companies, which don't want anyone to publicize non-invasive and effective competition with their drugs. It's very difficult to get a valid scientific study of frequency therapy published in a medical journal. Many journal editors are outright hostile to frequency therapy. I recall that years ago, a study conducted on a frequency machine was about to be published in a medical journal, and then at the last minute it was pulled. (Don't ask me for any more information because this was a long time ago and I simply don't remember the details.)
Nonetheless, there are thousands of studies that have managed to make it into medical journals on the use of electromagnetically delivered frequencies, electricity, and magnetic fields in medicine. Most of them concentrate on pain relief, and on healing tissue and bone. Occasionally, they do discuss disabling microbes but it's usually in conjunction with the use of pharmaceuticals. These studies avoid using the terms "Rife" or "Rife Therapy" because that would certainly mean a rejection of publication. Appendix D of my Rife Handbook lists just a few of these studies, according to year--one of them dating back to 1968. Plus, some really interesting books on electromedicine date back to the 1800s. For your convenience, I have attached it to my reply.
Sincerely,
Nenah
12-09-2020
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
The conspiration theory or that studies are prevented in the U.S. is all bull shit. I wouldn't buy a book that revolves around those claims. Better to go to reliable literature, which easily disproves those claims. This for example:
I think people should be tired of manufacturers that do no test and have no data, because that's usually the truth. And we know that there are so many unsubstantiated claims. It is very obvious that, if you try to patent or publish a paper so send a rocket to the moon fueled by pizza, everybody will laugh and you will get your application rejected. Do a correct research, and all will accept it.
The entire electromagnetic field is well studied and it is known what it can do and what it cannot. Any other thing is just a mystification to sell books or devices. I noticed that device manufacturers are usually very eager to make things that do not work, hiding on the claims of others. There is a clear reason for this: If it does not work, it's the guilt of the user, as he is mistaking the frequencies or using the machine wrong. If it works, by some miracle, it's a proof that the manufacturer will exhibit.
But... if a manufacturer would have a really working machine, that would be a problem. This is because a machine that works, will not just work on microbes, but will also affect somewhat the user. As with every medicine, if you just mistake dosage, you can kill. Will a manufacturer take this risk and get sued if something goes wrong? No, better to have a machine that does nothing, so it is safe. That's the current status of manufactured "Rife machines", and that's why the scientific community is against it. Rightfully, it tries to shut down an illegal business that is living on people's despair, to rip them off.
Of course, not everyone is on the same boat. Some, but too few, do serious research. The issue is that most are uneducated or live in their world, disconnected from the rest of the people (read, scientific community).
After you analyze the good and extensive scientific documentation on the subject, you will see that original Rife machines could do much more that that. Therefore, electromagnetism and frequencies are not the only means that he used. And this is where I do my own research.
12-09-2020
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I add a screenshot from the books above, which show the study of electromagnetic fields also in cancer cases.
Who is the author/owner of Rifevideos.com? Thanks.
12-09-2020
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hi!
Nobody thinks that it is about some conspiracy theories and mainly about the money that pharmaceutical companies can lose if it turns out that many diseases can be cured effectively (not only by masking the symptoms as they do now) and the companies would not earn anything on it. Only people paid for by these companies disparage any other way that causes their sponsors to lose their earnings. From my backyard: I wanted to work with a hospice where various cancer patients are waiting for death. Initially, I proposed a test of my ionic silver for bedsores and other skin problems of patients. I was refused because the doctor, who is paid by the state and on whom the state subsidy depends, did not allow the use of this preparation because there is no appropriate certification and nurses are allowed only to use what the doctor recommends.
Privately, many people use my preparation because it helps with skin problems and mucous membranes.
Coming back to the topic, I believe that a frequency machine can cure cancer effectively, but certainly not all devices, conditions and types of cancer. You can also cure cancer without such devices. You just need to know its weak points - Achilles heels.
12-10-2020
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Neenah said : Nonetheless, there are thousands of studies that have managed to make it into medical journals on the use of electromagnetically delivered frequencies, electricity, and magnetic fields in medicine.
...... Mmmkay no argument there from me.
I would be glad to review the yeast protocol. But I have a funny feeling that scrutiny would not be welcome, even tho I am outside USA, don't work for FDA, and have a Researchgate profile and PhD on RF Bioeffects.
PM me we can arrange something by email.
The manufacturer claims are not your responsibility ? Technically that's true. But why not take it to the next level ? Who could it harm ? I am less sceptical than government employees but I can't just believe a video. I need to review the concepts for apparatus and bio protocols to determine if it's the real deal.
12-10-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Who is the author/owner of Rifevideos.com? Thanks.
Don't know em - you should look that one up on the site
12-10-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
"The conspiration theory or that studies are prevented in the U.S. is all bull shit.
Not as much bullshit as that pathetic opening volley of another one of your all garlic eminence fronts! Haha!
Playing the childish switch tactic, when everybody knows very clearly it has nothing to do with research, was the end of your entire presentation. I respond poorly to being treated the pumpkin at a c level debate in the first place.
"I wouldn't buy a book that revolves around those claims. Better to go to reliable literature, which easily disproves those claims. This for example:"
We have those books and I will take your surely remote location and quaintness, as an excuse for rank ignorance of that, instead of thinking it just another thinly veiled oppotunity to insult everyone and affirm your (slippery) eminence. That would be so droll after all.
"The entire electromagnetic field is well studied and it is known what it can do and what it cannot.
Someone once told me that when someone passed a great giant steaming stinker, the only thing one can do is let it ferment there......tactics tactics tactics
(I confess, it was when i hit the "empirical evidence" of "shill or blowhardy wannbe?" that I used the excuse of porcene persona to succumb to my own awful personality and surgically point out my obvious "holes" in that research? For they seem like repetative circular A holes mostly and my frequencies resonated......pardon me and bon soi)
12-10-2020
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Gosh, slippery eminence. This is pure poetry.
12-10-2020
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I got the impression forum members are expected not to turn debates into insult contests . It gives the readers indigestion . When you question. Whether flatulance is politically correct. Or what the heck. To say any old thing that enters your head . Instead . Of following forum decorum . I can walk down the ghetto street any day to hear trash talk. In fact when I open the garbage bin I hear the trash talk. But hey, some days it really stinks. That's what I thinks. Anyway.
12-10-2020
David Shore
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I quickly scanned the site in the obvious places but couldn't find the info.
12-10-2020
CharBoehm
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Hi!
We have two supporters of conducting certification research for frequency machines. I would like to read what standards will these researchers refer to and what test procedures during the research and evaluation of results?...
Please provide me with such standards for testing the effectiveness of cancer treatment when there are so many factors involved, which the previous speaker (Yuriy) wrote about, such as the physical condition of the patient, the mental condition of the patient and how it will affect the test results. Of course, you can choose for example lung cancer patients, only each case will be different for the reasons described above and the type / type of cancer. [snip]
Stanislaw, thank you for posting your thoughts on this.
In reality, Dr. Milbank Johnson's 1934 cancer project at La Jolla was a group of case studies, not a true clinical trial. Even in those years, researchers knew the difference, which is significant.
The modern challenges to performing a clinical trial involving people with cancer, are tremendous. For starters, about the study design: a) finding enough study participants and control persons; b) is agency approval required; c) is a separate person needed to statistically analyze data; d) is lab equipment needed to document results; e) is the scope of a proposed study so wide that it becomes impossible to do everything in one study.
Then there are possible confounding factors that could skew the results: a) type of cancer; b) stage of cancer; c) immune status; d) age and sex.
Finally, it can be difficult to get results published, even if a study is finished. If there is a lot of money spent on a study and it is not done well, it will get torn apart faster than scavengers on a dead animal.
Many people's expectations that data should be available by now, 86 years after the La Jolla "clinical trial", is understandable. But Rife did not propose or run that trial, Johnson did. And Johnson said in a letter that the results were not yet conclusive. The 1934 "trial" has undoubtedly been overblown in its significance.
Probably the best that could be done at this juncture, unless significant funding were available, would be to report cancer "case studies" with as much detail as possible, without revealing personal information. Even then, it might require permission of the person using frequencies.
It might be much easier to do in-vitro lab work on certain pathogens, probably bacteria. And it would probably be wise to initially choose non-pathogenic bacteria, species that don't have a lot of variance (which would for instance rule out E. coli). If pathogenic bacteria were used, appropriate training would be needed for handling.
It's so good to have high expectations; it is easy to complain not enough is happening. But carrying out such projects is demanding of money, time, knowledge, and energy. And they require lots of planning. I have a relative that advises doctors and groups on designing reliable studies. When I talk with that person about these issues, it's enough to make one's head spin.
Best wishes,
Charlene Boehm
12-10-2020
CharBoehm
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
I should clarify one thought that I wrote in my previous message, "It might be much easier to do in-vitro lab work on certain pathogens, probably bacteria. And it would probably be wise to initially choose non-pathogenic bacteria, species that don't have a lot of variance (which would for instance rule out E. coli)."
There is a strain of non-pathogenic Escherichia coli available, so that might work for lab testing if proper lab procedures are used which avoid contamination from other pathogenic E. coli strains.
Charlene Boehm
12-10-2020
CharBoehm
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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I quickly scanned the site in the obvious places but couldn't find the info.
Hello David,
Some older versions of the paper have this information:
Peace be upon Yours All.
I stand up for the E. coli Bacterium, our Friend.
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How the E. coli Bacterium Can Benefit Us
The bacterium Escherichia coli is often thought of as a pathogen, but it’s typically found in the intestine as a regular part of gut flora. New work by researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder has now shown that it’s a vital part of that microbial community because it helps cells absorb iron, an essential nutrient. Reported in Cell, this study sheds light on how gut bacteria are beneficial to our health, and may also improve therapeutics that aim to treat iron deficiencies.
Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.
Besides all that activity and studies, they are also working on reducing bacteria and virus growth at higher frequency ranges; although there is not much published material available yet, you can find some information in patent application US20200016399A1.
These are mechanisms I read about before anectodely on this form and others but seems to be confirmed in serious research work
I did not see any other company or researcher publish data of repeated studies on electric fields and frequency therapy.
Tony
12-11-2020
Yuriy Vladimirovich
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Hi!
E. Coli bacteria do not harm us if it is only where it should be, i.e. in the intestines. If the intestinal walls are overrun by fungi or other pathogens that damage the intestinal walls, then this bacteria and other bacteria can enter the bloodstream and then harm us. Sitting in the intestines, they do a beneficial job for our body, and they are said to also produce H2O2, which is ammunition for white blood cells.
That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.
It says, "the alternating electric field inhibits infection of the cells in the target region by the virus"
However no mechanism is given.
What are the investigators missing ?
Dan
I only mentioned a couple of links as example, find much more at their website and in publications
Tony
12-13-2020
Ali Rosener
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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That's right.
60-70% with the urogenital system is caused by E. coli.
It is very pathogenic.
Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and don´t clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.
Sincerely
** Ali **
12-14-2020
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Hi Yuriy, Peace be upon You and Yours All.
That is a hygiene issue. Mostly because in the western countrys, People use toiletpaper and don´t clean with water straight way. In western toilets is no bidet, only for the rich.
Especialy for woman a issue, because there is not much distance between anus and vulva.
The problem is the behavior of host not the bacteria.
Sincerely
** Ali **
Not always. Autoimmune responses get older people with "whatever phenomenon they are calling leaky gut" and it is why rheumatism people want to take loads of vitamin c but can't or it can dramatically exacerbate the condition
06-08-2021
Glenn King
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hello,
What website? I don't see anyone here mentioning a site.
Immune Regulation Under Magnetic Fields https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.582772/full
Tony
06-09-2021
Jean Mareche
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hello,
Have read the site, interesting but a major error. Cancer has been shown recently to be a DNA illness. Sequencing of tumors cell by cell gives horrible results: the quantity of errors grows during the growth of the tumors to incredible results, up to millions of errors for a cell. Taking account the natural selection, the tumor will escape every treatment, and especially immunologic ones. In my family no one passed the 5 years. It is fun not to give healing results, as the conventional medicine does not outperform in the field! And has progressed very slowly in the last century.
Best regards
06-09-2021
Karl Buchanan
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
They can sure help some with supplemental, non toxic, remedials for both the cancer and the rifing.
I could not say about rife itself? Never used it alone on cancer or many things? Always part of a treatment strategy and a right fine performing one if you are only asking for what it can do and not expecting an "every time" miracle.
Some dam miraculous things happen with them sometimes too? It depends on the cancer and the practitioner. One of my all time favorite stories is the fellow who said "My wife had cancer. I took her to a man's house. When she came out, she did not have cancer." It happens. Just at my clinic, we are never totally sure what part of the whole treatment did it and do not make knowing that a priority.
06-09-2021
Dan Jenson
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Guys,
We already have all of the chemo and radiation and surgery available to terrorize cells. This would be oncologic cells as well as healthy cells. I do not wish to add anything to this horror. It is an expensive failure.
I would also say that non-thermal rife effects to cells are subtle phenomenon's anyway, and not worth the trouble.
What attracted me to Rife Technology is that Royal Rife targeted the causes of proliferating cells, and NOT live cells.
All of the trouble comes in when we target living cells while the causes of the cells remain. If we target the cells then we are no better than the chemo pushers. When you target the cells then cancer becomes a rich industry and treatment is terrorism.
This my my two cents for your consideration.
Hope it helps,
love Dan
Further comment 'edit' I just realized that there is listed 625,536 views on this string, and it is 15 pages long. Wow, congratulations Peter. How many people are going to see my rant ? I think we should defund cancer treatment and research !
06-10-2021
Stanislaw Chmielarz
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.
06-10-2021
Jean Mareche
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hello,
Cancer is formed each day, due to many causes, the self irradiation by 14carbon and 40potassium (not strong but complicated) is not the least. The problem is the inability of immune system to remove them ALL. It is simple at this stage. When the cells develop and clusterize it is more and more difficult.
Best regards
06-10-2021
Jeff Sutherland
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Originally Posted by Stanislaw Chmielarz
Hi!
Of the cases of cancer I know, surgical removal of the tumor is sometimes indicated due to:
- its volume
- no metastases
Unfortunately, this does not remove the causes of cancerous changes in the patient's body and if the dietary recommendations and life behaviors are not followed, the cancer returns even after 6 years.
A cell goes through several steps to become a cancer cell. Each step can be caused by a different factor. However, there is one step that is universal to all cancer cells. The cell must flip to anerobic energy production. This is caused by infection of the mitocondria of the cell by the Rife BX BY organism which has been DNA sequenced and is a common organism, bacillus licheniformis. This must be removed to prevent cancer or recurrence of cancer. It is in the food chain. It is even in some probiotic supplements. So we are constantly getting reinfected with this organism. This is why Rife cured many cancers but most had metastatic cancer later. It is also why everyone will get cancer if they live long enough. The book, Tripping Over the Truth, does a good job explaining Nobel Laureate Warburg's analysis of this problem.
The Canadian Indians taught sailors how to cure scurvy with tea that had Vitamin C. It took 200 years before the head surgeon of the Royal Navy mandated limes be put on all ships. From that point forward the Limey's ruled the waves. It has been almost 100 years since Warburg figured out the root cause of cancer and it will take another 100 years before the right person wakes up.
Last night I was watching the TV series "Downton Abbey" and the lord of the manor jumped up and vomited blood all over the table during a formal dinner. It was diagnosed as an ulcer brought on by stress. 100 years later we were still saying ulcers were an emotional problem until an Australian physician drank a beaker of H. Pylori and then biopsied his stomach showing ulcer formation. He published and eventually got a Nobel prize for this. H. Pylori is a bad bug but scanners detect it easily today and frequencies make short work of it. Maybe some cancer physician needs to drink a beaker of bacillus licheniformis. Unfortunately it is much slower acting than H. Pylori.
06-15-2021
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Originally Posted by Tony Kerselaers
Hi found these recent articles:
Non-thermal membrane effects of electromagnetic fields and therapeutic applications in oncology
Immune Regulation Under Magnetic Fields https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.582772/full
Tony
I found the oncotherm patent of Szasz at https://patents.google.com/patent/US9320911/en . They discuss a complex modulation involving some positive feedback from a sensor. I dont understand it all, but you could read it with the clue that the sensor unit is an SWR sensor. They mention 1/f pink noise. I am thinking the initial signal might be either clean sine or clean rectified sine ... and the shape of the mod signal is then further distorted or refined as a fourier sum (with some reference to the SWR feedback sensor input). It may be that the patent text does not clearly spell out the intention of the signal modification .... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR, and it stops adding extra harmonics once this extra action makes SWR worse. If my guess is correct, there is no special clinical or physiological aspect to this signal shaping, but minimising carrier reflection might be clinically optimal anyway (or not). If the mod shape can impact on target impedance, then maybe that is like an electrical engineer's ecstatic experience of sacred
Why would Szasz play with modulation in the first place ? Maybe because it allows higher peak RF power while limiting heating (related to average power). In older texts he used the term fractal modulation, which I beleive means like flower petals, but it may have some more obscure mathematical meaning.
06-15-2021
Dan Jenson
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.
I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)
Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)
However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.
Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.
dj
06-15-2021
Dan Jenson
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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.... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR
Yes and the patent mentions,
"In the present invention the feed-back is the forwarded energy, and a capacitive coupling is applied."
Is this another way of identifying a resonant coupling of energy ? In the Rife way the plasma pings pulse harmonics (of the resonant fundamental) all the way up through 1 gigahertz.
This is the magic of ringing the bell ! This is how resonant coupling works.
Now we witness oncotherm is not void of a similar magic. Pink noise !
Seem's oncothgerm getrs it.
Alan, you even call this "pink number harmonics".
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Pink noise
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Pink noise spectrum. Power density falls off at 10 dB/decade (−3 dB/octave).
The frequency spectrum of pink noise is linear in logarithmic space; it has equal power in bands that are proportionally wide. This means that pink noise would have equal power in the frequency range from 40 to 60 Hz as in the band from 4000 to 6000 Hz. Since humans hear in such a proportional space, where a doubling of frequency (an octave) is perceived the same regardless of actual frequency (40–60 Hz is heard as the same interval and distance as 4000–6000 Hz), every octave contains the same amount of energy and thus pink noise is often used as a reference signal in audio engineering.
So the second generation oncotherm uses e-fields in order to generate microcurrents that do the job in a background of targeted hyperthermia for the purpose of tissue temperature stabilization for treatment standardization.
I'm just trying to sort this out, if I am getting it correctly. Seems the Anthony Holland lab method with added tissue temperature heating for better effect. ( Someone previously suggested that Anthony H. needs be add some temp. stabilization to his process anyway)
Still, my contention continues that these processes are targeting cells with limited success, (20%) while, historically Royal Rife targeted micro-organisms. (method 1.)
However, seen side effects of the historical Rife therapy (that aimed to destroy micro-organisms) did destroy cancer cells. We have seen that pulsed energies electrocute the coherence of cell division thus limiting tumor growth at the moment of application. (method 2.)Then afterwards the randomness of proliferating cell division resumes.
Now with oncotherm we get a 3rd method of action, namely bringing the tissue temperature up to some standard and then applying pulsed micro-currents for the purpose of creating apoptosis in the cancer cells.
dj
I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.
The oncortherm uses an upper cone applicator of limited size and a lower waterbed functioning as a virtual second electrode. The RF irradiated area is thus limited to a defocused shape under the applicator.
There are other ways to acheive capacitive coupling e.g. using two plate electrodes.
06-16-2021
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
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Originally Posted by Alan Blood
I am going to be cynical and say that first inventors build the circuit of their dreams. And afterwards they make up waffle about how they guess it might have bioeffects.... Some historical background is the old theory that if you exceed 43 C you can kill cancer cells and unfortunately if you hit 45 C you start killing normal cells. This was difficult to safely acheive and the most recent hyperthermia therapies tend to aim lower than 42 C.
Oncortherm aside, there are patents that address just that. The thing is to give direction to the RF emission through proper antennas. Gorgun developed a software just to calculate where to focus the RF energy, taking into account skin depth, far mass, skin color, and other factors that influence the delivery.
Rife was using a diathermy machine coupled with a frequency generator. So, it was working on the heating principle, indeed. We know that salt added to water increases its boiling point. So, we could imagine that a frequency may alter the behavior of the diathermy machine and favor an effect before a critical temperature is reached. The Rife effect was always multi-faced, not a single one.
Noise just adds power density. It adds difficult to measure and replicate results. It's better to work with a square wave and duty cycle. And smaller plasma tubes!
06-16-2021
Fabrizio del Tin
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Just as curiosity, I attach a couple of diagrams from a femto-second mode locking argon laser by amplitude modulation. This might really be a modern Rife apparatus. It puts together the optics (see the diffraction obtained in the diagram), and the driving of the laser via an acoustic frequency (MOR).
06-16-2021
Dan Jenson
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Can this scheme possibly go more Rifian with a harmonic mode locking scheme ?
Just a suggestion.
06-16-2021
Ali Rosener
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Peace be upon Yours All.
I think You all or the most of You have heard about this company and there System.
This is more the way of Rife.
Allways have in mind, it is important to change the environment, to dry out the cause of sickness.
When i have moose in my english grass, then i have to change the environment, poison will not do it on the long term, it would be only symptomatic.
Radio Waves can help, when we use them on the right way.
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Radio-wave Therapy Proves Effective Against Liver Cancer Cells
May 31, 2019
A new targeted therapy using non-thermal radio waves has been shown to block the growth of liver cancer cells anywhere in the body without damaging healthy cells, according to a study conducted by scientists at Wake Forest School of Medicine, part of Wake Forest Baptist Health.
The study findings are published in the May 31 online edition of the journal EBioMedicine, a Lancet publication.
(Left hand image) Patient with metastatic cancer affecting various organs receiving first AM RF EMF systemic targeted treatment. Blue arrows indicate site of tumor with red lesions.
(Right hand image) Patient with complete and partial responses following months of AM RF EMF systemic targeted treatment. Light brown lesions indicate residual tumor following treatment with AM RF EMF.
I found the oncotherm patent of Szasz at https://patents.google.com/patent/US9320911/en . They discuss a complex modulation involving some positive feedback from a sensor. I dont understand it all, but you could read it with the clue that the sensor unit is an SWR sensor. They mention 1/f pink noise. I am thinking the initial signal might be either clean sine or clean rectified sine ... and the shape of the mod signal is then further distorted or refined as a fourier sum (with some reference to the SWR feedback sensor input). It may be that the patent text does not clearly spell out the intention of the signal modification .... but it might be as simple as adding just enough odd harmonics (or pink number harmonics, whatever) to get optimal SWR, and it stops adding extra harmonics once this extra action makes SWR worse. If my guess is correct, there is no special clinical or physiological aspect to this signal shaping, but minimising carrier reflection might be clinically optimal anyway (or not). If the mod shape can impact on target impedance, then maybe that is like an electrical engineer's ecstatic experience of sacred geometry.
According to https://www.rife.de/oncotherm---rife...erthermia.html they changed the faceplate label from MOD to RIFE, perhaps because the Rife story is so popular.... but probably the invention is originally unrelated to Rife. There is a typo in the rife.de text. 1/3 should read 1/f.
Why would Szasz play with modulation in the first place ? Maybe because it allows higher peak RF power while limiting heating (related to average power). In older texts he used the term fractal modulation, which I beleive means like flower petals, but it may have some more obscure mathematical meaning.
Hi Alan,
as I know Prof. Szasz personally and spent hours talking to him over the years, let me correct a few things you said:
Prof. Szasz designed his Oncotherm units based on Rife research that he then further developed in a Hungarian university. He describes his methods as based on Rife, but a further development of it. RIFE was originally written on his units and that is what made me aware of them, when I saw them at the Medica trade fair in Germany. The term "Rife" was changed to "Modulation" due to negative comments from others that were made. The technology is the same, they just changed the word. They have done a number of clinical studies with their Oncothermia, which combines hyperthermia with Rife modulation and they have had proven results in the treatment of cancer. If you are looking for a company that has been involved in clinical studies, this is the one.
Szasz has told me many times that he learned a lot about Rife and that was the basis of his research that led to Oncotherm.
06-17-2021
Alan Blood
Re: Can a Rife machine cure cancer?
Hi Peter. My apologies for misquoting rife.de on the faceplate label of Oncotherm. I deleted that paragraph.
If as you say Szasz feels the Oncotherm is based on Rife then I can accept that. .. It remains possible that his first modulated prototypes were developed in the years before Rife was popularized in 1988 as novel innovations. So we could agree to differ.
I met Szasz in 1994 at a Sydney conference.
There are plenty of similarities to modern Rife devices anyway especially where a phanotron tube is placed near the torso. However there is is probably no cracking spike in this non plasma applicator.
I notice the photo at rife.de has a large square top plate. Some previous models were described as having a cooled cone applicator.